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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 04:05 PM
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hi guys, its me jomo, ive been banned so...

well, i plan to install kick panels in my swifty, but i want bass up front, i was thinking about 8" subs....what do you think?
i'll have mb quarts in the dash facing up, and im a bass head kind of guy

my installer/friend told me that is crap but, you know....
it'd probably be some low end blast kings or sum'n for the time being, i just want some bass up front!

would it cancel the rear? could i tune it on a decent crossover to my liking?

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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 05:15 PM
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it wouldn't cancel the bass out, just add to it i think JL makes a 6 inch w0 and i know they make a 8, go with that
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 07:59 PM
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6 inch w0? hmm, what would the bass be like from a 6?
im probably going to try 2 8" sony explod subs in there and pound the **** out of em!

what about the enlosure? it would be sealed i guess, should i try and port the enclosure?
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 08:01 PM
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hmmm, try both, it's worth a shot, 6w0 would be nice though, i think they make a 6? lol, but if not 8w0 definatly, they're like 100 bucks a piece though, definatly sound awesome, they hit really hard for a damn 8, i think the bass from a 6 would be good, but hey, explod will be cheaper so try those
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 08:24 PM
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I doubt i could get those jl's for a good price where i live, hmmm, do you think i should go all out and try 2 10's?
id LOOOVE to have no sub/box in the trunk, you think 2 10's in the doors would work good for bass? maybe i could aim them towards the front? lol, maybe i could build a fiberglass enclosure under the dash and face them up?

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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 08:32 PM
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if you got banned twice, doesn't that tell you something?

Maybe you should start doing something differently...
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 11:58 PM
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8's in a custom sealed fiberglass enclosure would be the $hit Cross them at about 45 and you should have lots of bass up front. Problem is finding a place to put them.
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Old Jul 1, 2003 | 02:11 PM
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i dont think the 10's would be good, lol, that'd be TOO much for me
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Old Jul 1, 2003 | 05:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jonathan_EH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you got banned twice, doesn't that tell you something?

Maybe you should start doing something differently...</TD></TR></TABLE>i am

vteg: you say 'cross them at 45' you mean with a crossover right? tuned to 45hz? i think ill use my 10 inch kicker comp vr with another one and try them in a pre fab kick in the door....she better watch her feet!
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Old Jul 1, 2003 | 08:04 PM
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Yeah, in an sq setup sealed 8's will easily hit 50 or 45. Basically cross them low so you get the illusion of bass up front. Then the sub can fill everything below 40-50.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 01:00 PM
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ive looked in to this and it better if you run a good set of components

heres the link:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=526278
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 05:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xXxS_SxXx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ive looked in to this and it better if you run a good set of components

heres the link:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=526278</TD></TR></TABLE>

A good set of components will not get bass up front like an 8 will though, unless you are talking about a 3 way. With the three ways the midbass is normally crossed to high though. Generally aroun 400 or so. So the image may move towards the doors a little at the low end if you have kicks. At around 200 you will not be able to tell that the bass is not coming from the kicks.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 10:11 PM
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You have a point, but every reputable installer that I have talked to (or car audio shop) has told me that if you install a sub up in the front of the car --like in doors or kick panels-- you can have tuning issues without the correct components. Otherwise, all you are trying to do is trick your mind into feeling bass like it is coming from all around you. A good 3 way set like JL Audio's components will help plus give sound quality; depending on the setup. Due to my setup, a 3 way system would be better than a set of 8 inch subs up front. IMO.
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Old Jul 3, 2003 | 07:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HiGHakaJOMO &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I doubt i could get those jl's for a good price where i live, hmmm, do you think i should go all out and try 2 10's?
id LOOOVE to have no sub/box in the trunk, you think 2 10's in the doors would work good for bass? maybe i could aim them towards the front? lol, maybe i could build a fiberglass enclosure under the dash and face them up?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Don't do that...with just a component set and full sound deadning, my door hinges are already pissing on me.

That would be a TON of weight for a door to try to take

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Old Jul 3, 2003 | 08:01 AM
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remember i would have 4's in the dash, 4's beside the rear seats and 6's in the back, and im more of a bass kind og guy, alot of the time i fade out ALL of the mids and just play the bass, when im tired of hearing those stupid rappers
i was also thinking of the weight issue cause i want as much weight up front as possible
oh well, if i install 8's in the ddors and dont like them for bass, i can easily use them for mids tuned differently, right?
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Old Jul 3, 2003 | 11:47 AM
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Go solo - take the passenger seat out and build a box with two 18s if you like bass
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Old Jul 3, 2003 | 02:25 PM
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the last sq car i built we installed 3 focal 6s in place of the glove box firing down tward the floor since bass is no directional it worked great for the sq side with kicks in the floor...then if you wanted to start street beating we set up a switching network that transfered the amp over to a pair of 10s in the trunk..but if you tried to run both at the same time as quoted you will have bass waves crossing which will make it sound way off beat..the only other way to change this effect is to use a time delay on the subs in the hatch to align the subsonice waves which can be a very hard task
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Old Jul 4, 2003 | 08:26 AM
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hmm, interesring
you think i should just do 8" in the doors then? i could use them for mid bass if the bass doesn't work out right?
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Old Jul 4, 2003 | 09:35 AM
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8's wouldnt be bad if thats what you want I guess that the main thing is that its all in what you are going for...just sq a decated 6 in the right enclosure and tuning fequancy would work well..but if your looking for a little more bass your goin to have to install a sw in the trunk a 6 or 8 just wont be capable. the loudest I've recorded for the 3 6s was a 137 for 3 6s its decent but its not as loud as most people like..
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Old Jul 4, 2003 | 02:46 PM
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*sigh* banned again

yeah, id still have subs in the trunk so i guess 8 it is....maybe if its too much trouble ill just go with 6 or sum'n, ah hell i dunno, ill probably get banned again, ******* unfair mods, all i did was wish death on a young boy sodomising ***! wtf!?

can someone ask a mod why they insist on banning me so much, ive done nothing, even apologised, &%$@^%@%2
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 04:31 PM
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less posting, more reading, be way less opinionated.

You won't get banned.
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 04:51 PM
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Check out this setup http://www.sounddomain.com/mem...age=4
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 07:33 PM
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im really thinking of just getting some 6x9 boxes and gluin em on the door, lol
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Old Jul 6, 2003 | 09:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jonathan_EH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">less posting, more reading, be way less opinionated.

You won't get banned. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Don't forget to watch your language too!
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