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Old Jun 23, 2003 | 05:44 PM
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my sister's 93 civic stopped running all suddenly. i check timing, off one tooth. i reset timing(use old belt). install new cap/rotor/plugs. compression checked out to 180-130-130-180. plugs are wet w/ gas(no water). injectors are getting pulse. intake is pullin air. spark is present at plug. no backfiring/poping/gulpin. justs spins and spudders. i havn't checked fuel press. or spark lenght. very puzzled pls. help!
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Old Jun 23, 2003 | 05:51 PM
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Does it have good gas (as in not sitting there for a while)

Does the CEL go off after 2 seconds or just stay on with the key on the ON position?

I know you said there is spark, but take out the spark plug, place it about 1 mm from the top of the distributor and see if you have spark from there.

Check ALL grounds.

Keep us posted.
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Old Jun 23, 2003 | 06:15 PM
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cel?
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Old Jun 23, 2003 | 06:18 PM
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Check Engine Light.
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Old Jun 25, 2003 | 03:47 PM
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CEL doesn't come on. i got about 3mm of spark. my friend sugested we use a compressor to pump the cyl up with air. kinda like shady leakdown test. well i heard air leaking out the cyl's. some through the intake and other. i hate to have to pull the head if its not the source. is this eng. a free spining or will it hit valves if timing jumps a little. i apprieciate any thoughts...
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Old Jun 25, 2003 | 04:16 PM
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That's a ghetto way of doing it =X

Do a compression test with a compression tester. Keep us posted with the results.
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Old Jun 26, 2003 | 07:07 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by weaponZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">CEL doesn't come on...</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think he means it'll come on (bulb check) when you first turn the key on.

Try NEW plugs. I had gas-fouled plugs one time, I dried them out & the looked real good. But they wouldn't fire. I was stubborn so I kept looking for other problems for a couple hours. When I put brand new plugs in it fired right up. Just a possibility that's easy to try.

It's an interference engine, so piston will hit the valves if the timing belt breaks. But if it only jumped, I think it has to be off way more than one tooth before it hits.
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Old Jun 26, 2003 | 08:26 PM
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Spark plugs are new. compression tests have been made. the results were wierd. first they show low (70-90psi), then it would be good (180psi). used two compression gauges. the leakdown test is hard to ignore. well i will pull head and keep ya posted on the results. thanks.
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 12:44 AM
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 01:40 AM
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the middle cylinders probably have bent valves. i have seen 2 engines in my life give normal compression numbers or near normal numbers and have bent valves and not run.

the 130's worry me, alot. they should all be within +-10 of each other.
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