i was quoted 175.00 to recharge my r12
and someone suggested that i switch and itd be cheaper, any info on this?

 

Holy ripoff 175$! I think the r12 does feel colder though, I used to live in Dallas so imo I would keep the r12.

 

you can get a r12 supplment, i have it in my car the one i'm using it called frezze 12 its alot cheap like 7 bucks a can, u need 3 cans. or you can goto autozone and by the conversion kit for 30 bucks, it comes with everything u need to do it urself. But yeah i don't think r134a cools as good as r12 does.

 

If you want to do it right....... you need to have your old system drained out (you will have to pay someone to do this - like $20 - there is a special machine for it). Because the R134 systems use a different lube than R12 systems, you probably will have to flush the lubricant out of your compressor (ie pull it out, dump it upside down, flush it, whatever you feel is necessary). Also at this time you probably will want to put a new drier on it because the old one will be shot from opening it to the atmosphere. Replacing the drier is recommended any time you pull the compressor out. Put the stuff together, add some lube (ester oil for r134? pour some into the compressor before reinstallation), buy a couple of $5 bottles of r134 at walmart and charge it up! That's if you really want to do it right. Also I'd recommend replacing any seals that are accessible if you take the compressor out.

As usual, YMMV, but I did this last year, and my a/c gets nice and cool and hasn't leaked or broke yet!

 

If you want to be a lawful citizen you will have to have the r12 purged by a certified facility. I leave it up to you, but as mentioned it is a good idea to have the system vacuumed of the old oil anyways - the different oils dont tend to mix well although some people have done it with success. And yes, get a new drier if you dont want it to smell funky. the r134a complete conversion kit is about 30-40$ and the drier is prob about 30$.

 

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when i put my b16a swa into my crx, i discconnected my lines and took the compressor off, since then the compressor has been sitting in a box in my closet,

 

You need to get a bracket for the a/c compressor from whoever made your engine mount kit, then install the old compressor, lines, and new drier, get system vacuumed out and charge it up. Make sure to use new o-rings wherever possible to avoid costly refrigerant leaks.

 

The price that auto shops charge for r-12 is crazy, a neigbor of my grandparents works for a commercial/industrial a/c service and he said he'd charge my system for $20. Its just so expensive to get you to convert.

 

ya..my dad owns a refridgeration co. i got all the r-12 r134 i ever need :D except i need a compressor for my crx anyone got an extra one My dad could probably rebuild mine but i doubt he wants to do that ****...he would help me install it and charge it up and crap though. If anyone lives around Western MA...and needs a recharge i might be able to hook u up...

 

coverting from R12 to R134A is IMO not worth it. You would need all new lines and compressor because R134A operates at a lower pressure than R12 and if you compress R134A a bit to much it will explode. just get your R12 recharged, you probably only need about 2lbs of it, which should be around the $150-$200 range depending on the shop.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by white99gsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">coverting from R12 to R134A is IMO not worth it. You would need all new lines and compressor because R134A operates at a lower pressure than R12 and if you compress R134A a bit to much it will explode. just get your R12 recharged, you probably only need about 2lbs of it, which should be around the $150-$200 range depending on the shop.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Crackehad.

Go to a Honda dealership and get a retrofit kit. They are fairly cheap (under $60) and it includes converters for the line fill ports. It might even have some o-rings. You don't need a new compressor. Did your fathers unlces mother-in-laws grandsons wifes daughters friends dad tell you that?

R12 costs about $50 per pound and you will need 2~3 pounds for a complete fill. A complete evacuation can take a good half hour or so. I totally believe $175 is a decent price IF they are evacuating and filling the system completely. Add in the cost of a new filter/dryer ($40 + labor) if that's included. If it's just a refill then that's REDICULOUS!

If you convert to R134 you will NEED a new filter/dryer. $40. For all those who are installing their own A/C system or have had their compressor disconnected for a while and left the tubes open to air, you will NEED a new filter/dryer. It not only filters out small crap in the lines, but it also pulls the moisture out of the lines. If it was open to air for a while then it won't do it's job to the full potential and will SUCK.

You also need to replace filter/dryer for converting to R134 because R134 and R12 lubricating oils are different. The trick to a GOOD conversion is getting out as much oil as you can!

 

all these people like to do it the right way, however i have done many cars, without vacuming the system and without dumping the oil, (it says on the box you don't have to). I have never had a problem. Just release ur r12, or hell goto a shop and tell them u don't want ur r12 anymore, they should pay u to get it since they will resell the r12 for alot of money. again, go with a r12 supplement, it works the same if not better then r12 and is much cheaper!

 

white99gsr, i've had my HB sitting with the compressor off for over 7 months, i did not replace the dryer and it cools at 38 degrees f. coming out of the vents. THAT is COLD! again, you will proally not need to replace the dryer or lines i would not do it. Autozone sells that retrofit kit for 30 dollars if u want r134a, but go with a supplement it works!

 

reading pwnz joo

i stated above that the compressor is out of the car, the lines are open