IM's : JG/edelbrock or GSR stock?
i am contemplating getting this manifold since i've been eyeing it for over a yr now.. but i'm still weighing the pros and cons about it... So to you fellas who've gone from a stock gsr IM to the JG/edelbrock IM, were the numbers and performance worth the $300?? or could my money be better spent elswhere, like for a quaife?? I want to make a final decision b4 i take my car in to get tuned, which is why i'm askin..
thanks..
thanks..
Here is a good link. I think
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=518744
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=518744
The JG manifold has shorter runners for better torque numbers. But it all depends on your setup and engine management. I personally would go with the diff before you go and buy the manifold cuase the diff will help with traction and thats a bigger problem then the manifold. But the Victor X is a really good turbo manifold.
the jg manifold is junk, it is a round plenum with 4 runners and a flange , yes that is all there is to an itake manifold but there is no design or theory behind it, yes the jg is better then an str, venom, hogan's, or whatever these companies are selling as intake manifolds. but....... it still isnt right , the endyn manifold looks to be very promising. and want to see the aebs manifold. in my opinion and it is only my opinion almost all the intake manifolds out there are junk. there are just some simple things that people can do in their design like make the plenum the right size, maybe somewhere around 1-1.5x the size of the motor. maybe taper it going into the 1st cylinder because usually the 1st cyl. recieves 5-7% percent more airflow. and maybe even throw some ribs in the intake manifold to direct alittle more air into the 4th cyl because it will see on average 3-5% less then air then the rest. runners for a drag race FI maybe should be 250mm to 300mm from the valve seat to the mouth of the runner. runners tapered and staightned before entering the head. intake runners on the correct angle......but hey this is just the way i think. maybe the jg is the best intake manifold you can buy and i dont have a ******* clue as to what im talking about. but if some how i can afford to build the manifold i have designed i will bet anyone alot of money it will shame the JG anyday of the week........
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by miller »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the jg manifold is junk, it is a round plenum with 4 runners and a flange , yes that is all there is to an itake manifold but there is no design or theory behind it, yes the jg is better then an str, venom, hogan's, or whatever these companies are selling as intake manifolds. but....... it still isnt right , the endyn manifold looks to be very promising. and want to see the aebs manifold. in my opinion and it is only my opinion almost all the intake manifolds out there are junk. there are just some simple things that people can do in their design like make the plenum the right size, maybe somewhere around 1-1.5x the size of the motor. maybe taper it going into the 1st cylinder because usually the 1st cyl. recieves 5-7% percent more airflow. and maybe even throw some ribs in the intake manifold to direct alittle more air into the 4th cyl because it will see on average 3-5% less then air then the rest. runners for a drag race FI maybe should be 250mm to 300mm from the valve seat to the mouth of the runner. runners tapered and staightned before entering the head. intake runners on the correct angle......but hey this is just the way i think. maybe the jg is the best intake manifold you can buy and i dont have a ******* clue as to what im talking about. but if some how i can afford to build the manifold i have designed i will bet anyone alot of money it will shame the JG anyday of the week........
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Chris, you are a smart man and I couldnt agree with you more. The lenght or distance of the runner should be equal. The distance from the valve seat to the roof of the port on the intake manifold should be equal to floor of the intake manifold port to the vavle seat.
The JG works, but it was just something that was made due to the demand. Sure it'll make power but its just a plenum with runners. Edlebrock is a public comany that is on the NYSE and it seems that their way of thinking is "if we put our name on it people will buy it." It looks like it was molded off of a Fire extinguisher if you look at it. I seriously doubt any R&D was put into it.
I am going to get **** for this.
art
</TD></TR></TABLE>Chris, you are a smart man and I couldnt agree with you more. The lenght or distance of the runner should be equal. The distance from the valve seat to the roof of the port on the intake manifold should be equal to floor of the intake manifold port to the vavle seat.
The JG works, but it was just something that was made due to the demand. Sure it'll make power but its just a plenum with runners. Edlebrock is a public comany that is on the NYSE and it seems that their way of thinking is "if we put our name on it people will buy it." It looks like it was molded off of a Fire extinguisher if you look at it. I seriously doubt any R&D was put into it.
I am going to get **** for this.
art
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Chris, you are a smart man and I couldnt agree with you more. The lenght or distance of the runner should be equal. The distance from the valve seat to the roof of the port on the intake manifold should be equal to floor of the intake manifold port to the vavle seat.
The JG works, but it was just something that was made due to the demand. Sure it'll make power but its just a plenum with runners. Edlebrock is a public comany that is on the NYSE and it seems that their way of thinking is "if we put our name on it people will buy it." It looks like it was molded off of a Fire extinguisher if you look at it. I seriously doubt any R&D was put into it.
I am going to get **** for this.
art</TD></TR></TABLE>
art , this is the type of stuff i cant stand , companies putting out bullshit products and people buying them. just because it says "edelbrock" that dosent mean that it is good. i dont want people to think that im anti edelbrock or anything but their manifold is junk and its not just them, there are alot of companies that release products that are bullshit and that have no place being sold. but...i guess there is an *** for every seat.
if anyone out there reading this has money and wants to invest into some serious , hardcore race products. give me a call at the shop. number is below.....
much love to all of the money hungry parts manufacturers that would rather rush something out then do a little r&d
Chris, you are a smart man and I couldnt agree with you more. The lenght or distance of the runner should be equal. The distance from the valve seat to the roof of the port on the intake manifold should be equal to floor of the intake manifold port to the vavle seat.
The JG works, but it was just something that was made due to the demand. Sure it'll make power but its just a plenum with runners. Edlebrock is a public comany that is on the NYSE and it seems that their way of thinking is "if we put our name on it people will buy it." It looks like it was molded off of a Fire extinguisher if you look at it. I seriously doubt any R&D was put into it.
I am going to get **** for this.
art</TD></TR></TABLE>
art , this is the type of stuff i cant stand , companies putting out bullshit products and people buying them. just because it says "edelbrock" that dosent mean that it is good. i dont want people to think that im anti edelbrock or anything but their manifold is junk and its not just them, there are alot of companies that release products that are bullshit and that have no place being sold. but...i guess there is an *** for every seat.
if anyone out there reading this has money and wants to invest into some serious , hardcore race products. give me a call at the shop. number is below.....
much love to all of the money hungry parts manufacturers that would rather rush something out then do a little r&d
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