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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 05:12 PM
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ok so i got new hawk pads and power slot rotors for my 5lug with spoon calipers. i put then on and the front rotor does not spin freely. when i coast, the car slows down by its self very fast as if there is a lot of friction between the pad and rotor. anyone else encounter this problem? TIA

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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 05:15 PM
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Are you sure you have the right parts?
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 05:16 PM
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yup double checked. pads fit perfectly and rotors. the pads seem a little thick but no problems sliding the calipers and new pads back over the rotor.

*one thing though..... in the pic above.. the right pad has no play, but on the other hand the left pad does. ??? *confused*
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 05:56 PM
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you can't adjust the calipers out?
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 06:06 PM
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Dont spoon calipers have to be shimmed? Did the kit come with a bunch of really thin spacers?
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 06:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nosepkr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dont spoon calipers have to be shimmed? Did the kit come with a bunch of really thin spacers?</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gs R inteqras &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can't adjust the calipers out?</TD></TR></TABLE>

nope it did not come with any spacers. still cant figure out why!!
anyone else have any helpful advice? TIA
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 06:36 PM
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do some nice long braking, at high speed, like getting off the highwa. that should waer them down a bit
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 06:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ragejed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do some nice long braking, at high speed, like getting off the highwa. that should waer them down a bit </TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah?

i tried driving it and it pulls to the left a little. doesnt seem too safe.
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 07:16 PM
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weird....
I dunno what to tell you, but to take it all apart, and recheck, see if you can measure the inside of the caliper spacing on both sides, and thickness of the pass, you might find the problem there.
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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 09:51 PM
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Did you shave down the little tips on the pad that held the wear indicator?
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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 11:03 PM
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I had the same problem with my spoon calipers, spoon rotors, and endless na-m brake pads. my inside pad had play but my outside pad did not on both calipers. So what i did was put one endless pad on the inside were they had play and im gonna let them wear down a bit before i switch those that are in the inside to the out side and then put the other two that are not on the car on the inside. Make any sense?
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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 11:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ITR#132 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Did you shave down the little tips on the pad that held the wear indicator?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yup did that and still does it

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2000 Integra R #760 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had the same problem with my spoon calipers, spoon rotors, and endless na-m brake pads. my inside pad had play but my outside pad did not on both calipers. So what i did was put one endless pad on the inside were they had play and im gonna let them wear down a bit before i switch those that are in the inside to the out side and then put the other two that are not on the car on the inside. Make any sense?</TD></TR></TABLE>

sounds like a good idea. thanks

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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 05:14 AM
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Make sure the rotors are either 23 mm thick (stock thickness) or 25 mm thick. If the rotors are 28 mm thick, then they gave you NSX rotors instead of ITR rotors.
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 06:10 AM
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Did you have the same problem with other pads before?
If the rotor thickness is ok, your Spoon calipers might be off centered.

The Spoon calipers that fit perfectly in our USDM car are the ones that have the mounting surface shaved/machined at the bracket. Maybe AJ Pwr can help you out on that.....
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 07:28 AM
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Ummm mine came with thin spacers that allowed the calipers to sit center on the rotor. They look like washers. Make sure you install thouse between the caliper and the mounting bracket.
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 08:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Wai &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Did you have the same problem with other pads before?
If the rotor thickness is ok, your Spoon calipers might be off centered.

The Spoon calipers that fit perfectly in our USDM car are the ones that have the mounting surface shaved/machined at the bracket. Maybe AJ Pwr can help you out on that.....</TD></TR></TABLE>

this is the first time i've changed the pads since the calipers. when i got the spoon calipers i reused the stock pads. it is a JDM 5lug. and my calipers never came with spacers
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 08:45 AM
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did you push the pistons in before installing the pads (with reservoir cap off)??
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 09:24 AM
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Try taking the calipers off and see if there is still a problem with them spinning freely. At least that would let you know that they are definitely causing the problem.
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 01:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Big Phat R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">did you push the pistons in before installing the pads (with reservoir cap off)??</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ActiveAero &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Try taking the calipers off and see if there is still a problem with them spinning freely. At least that would let you know that they are definitely causing the problem.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes it does spin freely. trust me i tried everything. i even removed and drained the caliper of brake fluid and rebled the brakes. still same problem. so i put my old pads (which arent that worn out yet) back on to drive around for now.
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 01:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Drunk-N-Munky &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok so i got new hawk pads and power slot rotors for my 5lug with spoon calipers. i put then on and the front rotor does not spin freely. when i coast, the car slows down by its self very fast as if there is a lot of friction between the pad and rotor. anyone else encounter this problem? TIA
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Been there, done that. Rotors are the right thickness, calipers are perfectly centered, brake pads are the culprit.

Brake pads are not all created equaly. You just happened to buy HAWK pads which are notoriously thick.

Your easiest solution is to buy thinner brake pads. OEM ITR pads w/ the shims cut-off will work.

Good luck.
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