will this work? Someone told me it would, Planning on doing this for my all motor setup... any suggestions?

 

somebody? someone has to know about this?

 

I've done it to my 93 GSR swap. Its a good setup. Make sure to shave off about 1-2mm off the B16 rods inorder to get the CTR pistons to fit. What car are gonna put it in?

 

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B17 is nothing more then a stroked B16. It has different crank, rods, and pistons. If you change the crank and rods and put the CTR pistons in there you will have no problem. I am running CTR slugs in my B17 with no issues. The motor was clayed also and shows plenty of clearance. Compression is about 11.3-11.5:1. You will need to shave the eye of the rods as mentioned above. This cost me $80 at a local machine shop.

 

Shave and use the b17 rods, not the b16a rods.

 

Thanks guys, Now all i have to do is find a B17 crank anybody know where i could find one of those? even a new one?

 

EK sedan, soon to be stripped, and gutted. I wanna see what this puppy can do

 

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If you want em new, you can still order them from Acura. Personally, I would just look for a B17 shortblock to drop in. Not really worth the time to remove all the guts and put it in a different block... Unless you wanted to fool people.. heh.

 

well, normally i would agree with you, but I have a bare B16 block that I'm getting resleeved. So whats the point of puttin a b16 crank and internals in when i could stroke it, and put high compression pistons in will save me money in the end.

 

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See. That makes no sense to me. Its expensive to resleve an engine. So why spend the money on the B16 block? You can pick up B17 shortblocks for $600 or so. The cost of resleving the B16 block alone will reach that price, so why do it???

 

well, Let me think, oh yeah.... I don't need a sleeve giving way after i build up the motor... that would just be a waste of my money, and who cares if i want to resleeve it, that wasnt my question. And its way to hard to find a B17 shortblock anyway... PLUS, I got this bare block cheap as hell. why would i go out a waste 600 bucks on a shortblock that has weak sleeves, when i can get this one sleeved by golden eagle for alil more??? and have a bad *** bottem end....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Irishweird00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well, Let me think, oh yeah.... I don't need a sleeve giving way after i build up the motor... that would just be a waste of my money, and who cares if i want to resleeve it, that wasnt my question. And its way to hard to find a B17 shortblock anyway... PLUS, I got this bare block cheap as hell. why would i go out a waste 600 bucks on a shortblock that has weak sleeves, when i can get this one sleeved by golden eagle for alil more??? and have a bad *** bottem end....</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, for one, judging by the fact that you are aksing about CTR pistons, you plan to go NA, correct? Stock sleves are MORE then enough for a built NA engine, there is no need to change them. They will handle a good beating under boost as well. I have seen several B17's on the partstrader, some are complete swaps, some just the block. They are not that hard to come by. You do understand you are going to pay about $500 +/- for a USED B17 crank right? They are like gold. Anyways, you don't need to come off with an attitude. I am just trying to help you and possibly save you some cash. If you want to spend the money resleving the B16 block, then have it. In the end, I don't think its going to help you in any way on an NA setup. Each to his own however.

 

its alot better to do it right the first time

 

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I agree. But why spend the money on something that isn't going to benefit you in any way? Thats all I am saying. Just trying to point out that for the cost of the crank and rods alone, you can pick up the whole shortblock... That and the stock sleves will be more then enough. Hell, I ran 10psi on my B16 untuned and never had any trouble related to the sleves. I am sure thats more stress then an NA setup will see.

 

Well, resleeving is an option i have, If i do sleeve it, im obviously not going to run an N/A setup, I'm going to turbo it, I just wanted to know if I could use the parts ect... I know the cranks and internals are like gold, since they only made the motor for 2 years... Plus not to many people have that setup in a b16... at least that i know of, Most likely im just going to use the stock sleeves, because im id like to go all motor, I'm just considering every option so i do it right the first time, and so i dont blow up my motor...


Oh and i picked up the b16 block for 40 bucks.... you see why im asking about the b17 crank right?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Irishweird00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, resleeving is an option i have, If i do sleeve it, im obviously not going to run an N/A setup, I'm going to turbo it, I just wanted to know if I could use the parts ect... I know the cranks and internals are like gold, since they only made the motor for 2 years... Plus not to many people have that setup in a b16... at least that i know of, Most likely im just going to use the stock sleeves, because im id like to go all motor, I'm just considering every option so i do it right the first time, and so i dont blow up my motor...


Oh and i picked up the b16 block for 40 bucks.... you see why im asking about the b17 crank right? </TD></TR></TABLE>

If you plan to boost then you certainly do NOT want to put stock pistons in your engine, much less CTR's. Your compression ratio would be insanely high for boost and you would toss the motor in a matter of no time.

$40 is a good price for a bare block, they can usually be had for $100 with no damage. Was yours messed up? Resleving the block, the last time I check, was close to a grand.

 

no the block has no damage to it at all, and i know stock internals would be way out of the question for turbo, it was just a route to go, I'm more into all motor setups, I like the reliability factor, and yes, it would prolly be around 900++ to sleeve the block depending on what i wanted.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Irishweird00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no the block has no damage to it at all, and i know stock internals would be way out of the question for turbo, it was just a route to go, I'm more into all motor setups, I like the reliability factor, and yes, it would prolly be around 900++ to sleeve the block depending on what i wanted.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sweet. Good price on the block. If you really do plan to stay NA then I would skip the resleve, its really not going to help you much... Of course, this is just my opinion. You are free to spend your money as you see fit. Your best bet would probably be to find a B17 shortblock, and then take out the guts. Keep the rods and crank for your project and then sell the pistons and the block. The pistons are desirable as they are low compression and make good cheap turbo pistons. Unfortunately mine were damaged by the shop when they removed them from the stock rods, otherwise I would have sold mine as well. You could probably make up about $200 of your cost by selling the block the pistons.

 

thanks, ill keep that in mind when im looking for parts

 

If you're gunna go boost, I would save the money and just use a b16a crank, aftermarket rods will be a LOT easier to come by as well. The added displacement isn't going to do much for you if you're boosting, and the higher R/S ratio will let you run a little more boost safely.

 

http://www.hstuners.com/news/wmview.php?ArtID=33 knock yourself out

 

Good theory, may not be practical for budget minded buildups.

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=529244 heres one for sale