hey guys, i can get a set of Brand New Neuspeed Springs. They will lower the S about 1.5 inches. Would i also need to change the shocks to add these springs? thxs! And if so which shocks do u recommend? thxs again!

OG


Modified by OGPackin at 3:28 PM 6/3/2003

 

You may or may not like this answer, but I think you should look at some of the following full coilover setups:

- Tein Type RA
- Buddy Club Race Spec
- JIC FLT-something(I forget the model numbers on these)
- Zeal (forgot this model also)

I look at it like this: You bought an awesome car that is in no way cheap, why skimp on performance mods for it? With a full coilover setup from a reputable company you are going to have a setup that was designed to work together perfectly from the factory (ie not mismatching springs and coil over sleeves to shocks). Plus later down the road you are going to get a ride in an s2k that has one of these set ups and really get to feel the difference.

If you still want to go the spring route, then I would suggest purchasing both aftermarket shocks at the same time and coil over sleeves to allow you to change your ride height (especially if you plan on getting aftermarket wheels). I *believe* Ground Control makes a set for the S2000, and as for the shocks, Koni would be a good company to look at.

Hope this helps a little,

-J

 

uhhh coilovers... especially the ones floating around $1500 ... overrated. they're nice, but nothing to write home about.. especially compared to s2000's pretty sschweet stock suspension. welcome to the world of honda's f1-inspired factory prepped rides (type-Rs, NSXs, s2000s)

the stock shocks on the s2000 aren't just your run of the mill civic shocks. why don't u go look at one and tell me if something looks kinda different about them.

what u do have to watch out for is lowering too much on the stock shocks and the neuspeeds are def on the aggressive side. check out the kg/mm race springs or like he said, go with some custom rates that aren't as aggressive thru ground control (eibachs).

if you really want improvements, look at spending around $1K per corner.

 

Hey bro, thxs for responding to my posts!! Im a little new to the s2000
as u can tell im sure... I appreciate ur help! Anyway, about the
suspension? If i go with the coilover setup does that mean i dont need to
get the springs? And would i need to change or add anything else? Thxs
again bro!! Ohh hey i tried emailing u but it bounced back "unknown"

Im also looking at the The TODA S2000 exhaust manifold with the Spügen Dual Exhaust w/Oval Tips. What are ur thoughts on them? thxs!

OG



Modified by OGPackin at 9:29 PM 6/3/2003

 

I couldn't disagree more about aftermarket coil over suspensions being "overrated." "Overkill" for some, perhaps.

And yes if you look at the stockers they have external resevoirs. Just slapping an external resevoir on a shock absorber does NOT in ANY way make it automatically better than another shock (not that I would ever knock the stock suspension).

I will maintain that any time you start mixing and matching parts (aftermarket springs/stock shocks or even aftermarket shocks of one brand and coil over sleeves of another) you loose the benefits that come from a single unified design principle among all of your suspension parts.

Dont believe me though, look at the number of pepole with blown stock shocks using springs / co sleeves bouncing all over the road. If you want further evidence, go take a ride with one setup, then with another.

Take a ride in an S2K with just springs/co sleeves, then go for a spin in a full race-coilover setup. I did and the difference was night and day, hence my lack of reservation in droping the bux for my Tein RA's.

What are you running WRS2K, and have you driven an S equiped with a full coil over setup?

You dont have to spend 1,000+ per wheel. 1,600 - 1,800 will land you a nice set that you can adjust dampening, and height. I can only really speak to the Tein RAs because thats what I have, but the RA's aluminum shock bodies should save you some weight too.

-J

 

Sorry I was responding to the other post before I saw yours

If you were to go with a full coil over setup thats all you would need, the springs are included and depending on the brand (again I can only testify to how Teins are shipped for this application) even come set up ready to throw on the car. The Teins are already adjusted at an "optimum" height for the spring rates included and include an "optimum" dampening setting. IMHO full setups are easier to install too because you dont have to go through all the hassle of compressing the stock springs, disassembling, etc... just pull out the old unit and replace with the new one.

As for Toda's header, BAD ***. And I'll leave it at that. Its on my list ;-)

As for Spugen, I love what they are trying to do and I would have bought one of their exhausts, but I wanted full titanium and wasn't thrilled with how their titanium mufflers looked. If you like the look of their mufflers (and thats just a style call you have to make about what makes YOU happy) then go for it. I talked with Duc there when I was making my decision and he was most helpful! Good guys, good product.

I PMd ya about the email not werking, I keep forgetting to update it :-P

-J

 

Hey bro, thxs for all ur help! I tried PM'ing u back but it says i dont have permission to? I'll take a look at ur post and get back to u. thxs again!

 

To keep this dicussion on point and simple, go check out the racing and competition forum on s2ki.com if you haven't already. Talk to a guy named jzr and he'll set you straight or he'll burn you in the turns.

And I have no idea why someone would say aftermarket headers are badass for the S2000. Without proper tuning ($$$), you'll end up making less power than stock. And even if you do get gains, it's not enough to make a real world difference.

blah blah blah

If you like saying you got Teins on your car, then do it because I swear ricers get wood from hearing about the JDM bling.

To the rest of us heterosexuals, don't be dishing out how your $1500 suspension improved upon Honda's S2000 R&D work w/o showing us a lil' somethin' somethin' other than buttwork.

Thoughts?

 

Wow, you pretty much managed to do everything BUT keep this discussion on point and simple.

Frankly your attitude offends me and I think that its pretty sad that you felt you had to resort to personal attacks to try to prove whatever point it is that you are trying to make.

It seems that you are just regurgitating information handed to you by someone else (maybe they know their stuff, maybe not). Either way your personal attacks prove nothing (other than your lack of maturity) seeing as how you have yet to back your statements up with any PERSONAL experience or raw data (want dyno charts on the TODA headers, I can provide them to you).

Anyway OGPackin good luck with your decision, get some others viewpoints, S2Ki is a GREAT place to get advice, not *everyone* there is as hostile as this gentleman is so introduce yourself and get all the facts and listen to everyone's experiences.

-J

Edit: I'd like to add that I dont believe there was any personal insult in my original disagreement, if there was offense taken (perhaps you have a setup that I would not prefer and somehow took offense?) I apologize.

 

Dont even sweat him. He does this over at s2ki as well.

 

Yea, I know but I was bored at work so a response was necessary (plus we can't have OGPackin being tainted by him now can we ), do you smell Beig?

 

the Neuspeeds in my opinion are pretty horrible lol...stock handles better in my opinion but it does give a nice good lookin drop....like the others have said, stick w/ a damper/shock setup, its a tad bit more expensive than springs but you wont regret purchasing it...