"Nissan" Garret T28 turbo Questions
Has anyone ever installed this onto a B series motor before? If so, was there any kind of custom work needed to make this work correctly? I was recently informed that there may have to be some work involved in getting the coolant and oil to the turbo. Can anyone shed some light on this?
Khoi
Khoi
You can run water from the stock location that normally goes to your throttle body, unless you live in a very cold climate you don't need that crap hooked up anyway. It runs in and out, so just use rubber or silicone lines to reroute from there to the turbo and back. Otherwise you need the standard issue oil feed and return, and of course a manifold with the correct flange.
And if it's from an S15 Silvia, that's a badass turbo!
And if it's from an S15 Silvia, that's a badass turbo!
Firstly, you will need a manifold. HKS is the only one flanged properly that is sold outside of a kit. The Greddy and Apexi manifolds, if found, will also work. The oil feed fitting is a 7/16-24 i.f. brake adapter, the drain flange can be found at SR20performance.com, but may have to be modified, depending on the CHRA. The water fittings are 14x1.5, you will need adapters to 1/4" then another barb adapter... Lemme see, outlet flane from TEC, or from an OEM application... You will need compressor inlet and outlet fittings...alot of stuff will be custom and take some time to track down... I will be fitting my Pulsar GTi-R turbo in a few weeks, and will be doing a writeup. GL
i'm also using a "nissan" t25/t28 turbo from a nissan rb**det motor according to the vendor. it has a marking of nissan and 16v in the compressor housing.
i'm not sure what trim it is but the compressor wheel is about 2" in dia. it starts boosting at 3.5k rpm and holds til redline, this is on a b16. i run the water line from the iacv to the turbo then back to the iacv.
i'm not sure what trim it is but the compressor wheel is about 2" in dia. it starts boosting at 3.5k rpm and holds til redline, this is on a b16. i run the water line from the iacv to the turbo then back to the iacv.
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So besides using the HKS or greddy manifold for the turbo...what other custom work needs to be done, I mentioned something about doing some custom work getting the coolant and oil lines to the turbo.....someone explained it earlier in the post..but can someone simplify that....Will this be a difficult task or easy one?
Khoi
Khoi
A friend of mine ran this set up on a GSR awhile back....he used to post on here...I will see if he can IM you with exactly what you need.
PS- I have seen that turbo push a GSR swaped 5th gen coupe to 12.6 on slicks at 10psi on stock injectors.
PS- I have seen that turbo push a GSR swaped 5th gen coupe to 12.6 on slicks at 10psi on stock injectors.
Some problems I ran into.
The block will need a lot of grinding with the HKS mani. but nothing to serious. Make sure that with all the gaskets in place everything clears the block.
If you use AN lines to plumb the cooling you will need a 120 degree hose end on the inside of the housing to clear the block. You must plumb the cooling on this turbo, this is straight from the Garrett reps mouth.
The intake tube is tuff to fab, if done properly. The trans is very much in the way.
I had to move the W/G actuator and modify its mount and lever arm. It was in the way of the radiator.
I also had to build a custom downpipe, 2.5" works well.
I had some over oiling problems at first with my turbo.(oil pressure pushing past the seals) I used -4 line from the engine block which connected to the brake line that came out of the turbo housing. I used a .055" restrictor inline at first but ended up with a .046" after much experimenting.
I also found that Endyn's breather kit solved some other problems. Hooked up per Larry's instructions and with the slash cut tube facing into the flow of the intake before the turbo.
There were lots of other snags, but all worth it.
Good luck.
The block will need a lot of grinding with the HKS mani. but nothing to serious. Make sure that with all the gaskets in place everything clears the block.
If you use AN lines to plumb the cooling you will need a 120 degree hose end on the inside of the housing to clear the block. You must plumb the cooling on this turbo, this is straight from the Garrett reps mouth.
The intake tube is tuff to fab, if done properly. The trans is very much in the way.
I had to move the W/G actuator and modify its mount and lever arm. It was in the way of the radiator.
I also had to build a custom downpipe, 2.5" works well.
I had some over oiling problems at first with my turbo.(oil pressure pushing past the seals) I used -4 line from the engine block which connected to the brake line that came out of the turbo housing. I used a .055" restrictor inline at first but ended up with a .046" after much experimenting.
I also found that Endyn's breather kit solved some other problems. Hooked up per Larry's instructions and with the slash cut tube facing into the flow of the intake before the turbo.
There were lots of other snags, but all worth it.
Good luck.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RUSE-TCL »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I also found that Endyn's breather kit solved some other problems. Hooked up per Larry's instructions and with the slash cut tube facing into the flow of the intake before the turbo.
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....and a good friend's help
It is an impressive turbo, well worth the efforts to install it on a Honda engine for a interesting street applicaion, Good luck
I also found that Endyn's breather kit solved some other problems. Hooked up per Larry's instructions and with the slash cut tube facing into the flow of the intake before the turbo.
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....and a good friend's help
It is an impressive turbo, well worth the efforts to install it on a Honda engine for a interesting street applicaion, Good luck
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RUSE-TCL »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Some problems I ran into.
The block will need a lot of grinding with the HKS mani. but nothing to serious. Make sure that with all the gaskets in place everything clears the block.
If you use AN lines to plumb the cooling you will need a 120 degree hose end on the inside of the housing to clear the block. You must plumb the cooling on this turbo, this is straight from the Garrett reps mouth.
The intake tube is tuff to fab, if done properly. The trans is very much in the way.
I had to move the W/G actuator and modify its mount and lever arm. It was in the way of the radiator.
I also had to build a custom downpipe, 2.5" works well.
I had some over oiling problems at first with my turbo.(oil pressure pushing past the seals) I used -4 line from the engine block which connected to the brake line that came out of the turbo housing. I used a .055" restrictor inline at first but ended up with a .046" after much experimenting.
I also found that Endyn's breather kit solved some other problems. Hooked up per Larry's instructions and with the slash cut tube facing into the flow of the intake before the turbo.
There were lots of other snags, but all worth it.
Good luck.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Any engine pics of your setup? I was thinking of doing this turbo swap. I currently have the HKS Bseries manifold mated to a TD04 15g on a stock b16. Any other tips before i buy this GT28R ball bearing turbo? How much did you pay for the turbo? and are you using it on a 1.8 or 1.6? TIA
The block will need a lot of grinding with the HKS mani. but nothing to serious. Make sure that with all the gaskets in place everything clears the block.
If you use AN lines to plumb the cooling you will need a 120 degree hose end on the inside of the housing to clear the block. You must plumb the cooling on this turbo, this is straight from the Garrett reps mouth.
The intake tube is tuff to fab, if done properly. The trans is very much in the way.
I had to move the W/G actuator and modify its mount and lever arm. It was in the way of the radiator.
I also had to build a custom downpipe, 2.5" works well.
I had some over oiling problems at first with my turbo.(oil pressure pushing past the seals) I used -4 line from the engine block which connected to the brake line that came out of the turbo housing. I used a .055" restrictor inline at first but ended up with a .046" after much experimenting.
I also found that Endyn's breather kit solved some other problems. Hooked up per Larry's instructions and with the slash cut tube facing into the flow of the intake before the turbo.
There were lots of other snags, but all worth it.
Good luck.</TD></TR></TABLE>Any engine pics of your setup? I was thinking of doing this turbo swap. I currently have the HKS Bseries manifold mated to a TD04 15g on a stock b16. Any other tips before i buy this GT28R ball bearing turbo? How much did you pay for the turbo? and are you using it on a 1.8 or 1.6? TIA
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PseudoSilvia »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Does it START boosting or does it make full boost at 3500? Either one of those should start boosting way before 3500.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i mean full boost at 3500 til redline.
i used banjo fittings for the oil and coolant lines and they never leaked on me. my manifold is cutom made so don't need to shave the block or anything and i still have my a/c. i'm also using a custom made 2.5" downpipe, the manifold uses a bolt flange.
and besides the markings of "nissan" and "16v" of the compressor, it also has a triangular flange on the compressor outlet. i believe the turbine and compressor wheels are ceramic.
i mean full boost at 3500 til redline.
i used banjo fittings for the oil and coolant lines and they never leaked on me. my manifold is cutom made so don't need to shave the block or anything and i still have my a/c. i'm also using a custom made 2.5" downpipe, the manifold uses a bolt flange.
and besides the markings of "nissan" and "16v" of the compressor, it also has a triangular flange on the compressor outlet. i believe the turbine and compressor wheels are ceramic.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HybridEF2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Any engine pics of your setup? I was thinking of doing this turbo swap. I currently have the HKS Bseries manifold mated to a TD04 15g on a stock b16. Any other tips before i buy this GT28R ball bearing turbo? How much did you pay for the turbo? and are you using it on a 1.8 or 1.6? TIA</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't have any pics I can post right now but should soon. I bought the turbo from a friend as a package deal, So I'm not sure what it cost originally, and its on a 1.6.
Also if anyone needs to make custom I/C piping I believe Cheapturbo.com sells the proper flanges for the compressor inlet, and outlet. They are a O ring seal.
Any engine pics of your setup? I was thinking of doing this turbo swap. I currently have the HKS Bseries manifold mated to a TD04 15g on a stock b16. Any other tips before i buy this GT28R ball bearing turbo? How much did you pay for the turbo? and are you using it on a 1.8 or 1.6? TIA</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't have any pics I can post right now but should soon. I bought the turbo from a friend as a package deal, So I'm not sure what it cost originally, and its on a 1.6.
Also if anyone needs to make custom I/C piping I believe Cheapturbo.com sells the proper flanges for the compressor inlet, and outlet. They are a O ring seal.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RUSE-TCL »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I don't have any pics I can post right now but should soon. I bought the turbo from a friend as a package deal, So I'm not sure what it cost originally, and its on a 1.6.
Also if anyone needs to make custom I/C piping I believe Cheapturbo.com sells the proper flanges for the compressor inlet, and outlet. They are a O ring seal.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Please post your pics when you have them available. I'm really interested in using this turbo with my existing setup but I want to make sure that I will reach my 300whp 200tq goal with this upgrade. I also want to make sure if I do decide to go 1.8 in the future that this turbo will be efficient for that as well. TIA.
I don't have any pics I can post right now but should soon. I bought the turbo from a friend as a package deal, So I'm not sure what it cost originally, and its on a 1.6.
Also if anyone needs to make custom I/C piping I believe Cheapturbo.com sells the proper flanges for the compressor inlet, and outlet. They are a O ring seal.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Please post your pics when you have them available. I'm really interested in using this turbo with my existing setup but I want to make sure that I will reach my 300whp 200tq goal with this upgrade. I also want to make sure if I do decide to go 1.8 in the future that this turbo will be efficient for that as well. TIA.
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