just a quick question:
is anybody running the mugen rear swaybar with the JDM front bar? anybody have any feedback on this setup? thanks!

-tony

 

Is the JDM ITR front sway the same as USDM?

 

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i think ....
JDM = 23mm
USDM = 22mm

 

What the ****??!!??

REAR (i.e., REER, back, Rear, not front) sway = 22mm (usdm), 23mm (jdm)

Front (i.e., Front, not Rear) sway = 24mm

Front sway is the same. So you can't actually 'upgrade' to the JDM y0 front sway.

 

Now, this may be a rumor, but didn't they go with a 25mm front sway on the later JDM ITRs.

 

Looks like I might have made a mistake. Couldn't find definite info though. Who knows....

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=452794

 

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This is correct.

Do not put a bigger front swaybar on the car unless you just want increased understeer.

If anything put a 21mm Civic swaybar in the front.

 

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An LS front sway would be another way to go as well..

 

most ppl i know with dc2's remove the front strut to reduce the understeer ff cars produce and stiffen the rear so the backend breaks loose easier thru turns (much like a fr), thus, allowing the front wheels to be straighter and put down more power

 

You mean, like remove the stock upper strut bar ? Plus, add maybe a rear strut bar ?

Is this for all the time, or just maybe autox, or ?

How would that really handle ? (Sorry for the questions, just confused, don't think I've heard this before...?)

 

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Funny, i didnt know ITR's had struts.

While the end result of your reasoning is sound, the path leading to it is very, very foggy. There's a link in the RR/AX forum FAQ 'scott's suspension summary' or something like that. Read up.

 

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Please do not reply if you have no idea what you are talking about.

How many of those people you know track their cars?

BTW, the track that I'm referring to is one with turns.

 

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most ppl i know with dc2's remove the front strut to reduce the understeer ff cars produce and stiffen the rear so the backend breaks loose easier thru turns (much like a fr), thus, allowing the front wheels to be straighter and put down more power

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it doesn't have anything to do with how straight the wheels are -- it has to do with weight transfer and how the suspension is loaded.