ok i'm looking for info on ls-vtec turbo setups...

i am currently driving a 94 hatch with a b16

i want to go turbo but not on that small of a displacement....
i don't feel it will put out enough hp to enter into furture am comps....
i'm not looking for an everyday driver....
i'm just interested in being a serious racer in the near furture ... (not street racer)

how do the ls-vtec turbo setups your running compare to other turbo setups that are not frankensteins....

 

With my completely stock B16A2 in my 99 Si Coupe I ran a best of 12.43 @ 110 on slicks. That was on 10 psi almost 11 psi: DRAG III w/ 310cc injectors and a 10:1 FMU, no VAFC. You can haul *** with a B16, believe me. It dynoed 251 whp and 189 tq. The car was fast but of course I wanted to go faster. It had nice top end but it did lack torque. I was fortunate to find a 2001 LS block last year and I am almost done with the block swap. I wanted to hit 11's but I didn't think I could push the B16 that far. Hopefully this new setup will do it. For the full setup click here: http://www.gtrmotorsports.net/bios/jaybio.html
From personal experience if I were you I would turbo the B16 and rock that out for a while while you look for an LS block. You won't be disappointed with a turbo B16, especially in a hatch...just my $.02 Good luck with whatever you decide to do

 

are still going to be using the FMU setup with the new motor?

 

B16As can make a lot of power, trust me!

 

b18b98 - Yes, if you are referring to me. 440cc, 12:1 FMU, 255 intank, and VAFC on the new setup. I know that many people do not believe in this fuel setup, think it is dangerous and completely unreliable but it does work and drives awesome. I tried it on my brother's 96 DRAG III GSR hatch and it rocks.

 

thanks for the info...actually..i'm going with that same setup also. Mine consists of DSM 450s, SAFC and a Warlboro fuel pump. I'm going to keep my 12:1 fmu which came with my kit thats in my car right now. Is yours tuned?

 

No, its not done yet. I'm probably going to start it up for the first time on Thursday, drive it around for a week and then get it tuned. I'll post the results, I'm aiming for 300 whp.

 

one of our customers got over 400 to the ground ( LSVTEC, JE 9-1 , eagle rods , stock sleeves , stock b16 head W/ JG springs/retainers , Head Studs, 20 Psi of boost , W/ 550cc injectors controlled by a bank-bank Speed pro)

 

To you and the person that just responded: You can't NO WAY IN HELL use 440cc (or 450cc) injectors with an FMU. A 12:1 FMU + 440's is going to flood your motor too all hell. There is no way you tried 440's + 12-1 fmu out on someones car and can say that it worked well.... An FMU by design is supposed to work with stock (or slightly enlarged) injectors and ghetto-force the extra fuel through them by raising the pressure to insane levels. With big injectors you speak of, you will flood your motor to all hell. jeez-- 450's + 12-1 FMU you might as well end up hydrolocking the damn thing with gasoline!
(where did you get your info!?)

 

I prefer LSVTEC's... But that is just me... I have had good luck with the ones I've built.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Johnyquest &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">To you and the person that just responded: You can't NO WAY IN HELL use 440cc (or 450cc) injectors with an FMU. A 12:1 FMU + 440's is going to flood your motor too all hell. There is no way you tried 440's + 12-1 fmu out on someones car and can say that it worked well.... An FMU by design is supposed to work with stock (or slightly enlarged) injectors and ghetto-force the extra fuel through them by raising the pressure to insane levels. With big injectors you speak of, you will flood your motor to all hell. jeez-- 450's + 12-1 FMU you might as well end up hydrolocking the damn thing with gasoline!
(where did you get your info!?) </TD></TR></TABLE>

thats what i thought also until I saw the results of the inlinepro guys such as Jinxproof, Autoexturbo and other VA/MD/DC honda-techers...

 

Johnnyquest: It is possible with the afc. The purpose of that is to lower the injector pulsewidth on the bigger injectors, although that still is a shitload of fuel pressure with that 12:1 reguardless of injector size. I personally would opt for some sort of standalone but to each his own.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Johnyquest &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">To you and the person that just responded: You can't NO WAY IN HELL use 440cc (or 450cc) injectors with an FMU. A 12:1 FMU + 440's is going to flood your motor too all hell. There is no way you tried 440's + 12-1 fmu out on someones car and can say that it worked well.... An FMU by design is supposed to work with stock (or slightly enlarged) injectors and ghetto-force the extra fuel through them by raising the pressure to insane levels. With big injectors you speak of, you will flood your motor to all hell. jeez-- 450's + 12-1 FMU you might as well end up hydrolocking the damn thing with gasoline!
(where did you get your info!?) </TD></TR></TABLE>

I know that it seems as if this setup doesn't work - but it does. With the V-AFC you can take out -40% from the 440cc injectors and the FMU runs extra fuel pressure through the injectors when they aren't spraying 440cc worth of fuel. I've tried it on my brother's turbo GSR his car drives and boosts perfectly fine. All he has is stock motor, Skunk 2 intank manifold, DRAG III turbo kit, 440cc, VAFC, **** B&M regulator, 255 Holly intank, stock fuel rail, Apex N1 exhaust - 12.34 @ 110 on slicks. He drives it to work everyday. Idles fine and drives fine, no bogs or stumbles. This setup worked for us, I'm doing it on my car. I don't want to start a debate over the proper way to reliably boost a Honda, because I realize this may not be it. I just wanted to state that this setup works and people do haul *** with it.