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Old Apr 29, 2003 | 04:45 PM
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Default autometer a/f gauge installation (trick question)

1. Yes, I know the autometer a/f gauge is not much more than a neato light show. Unfortunately, I have to install this damn thing - long story.....

2. I want to install it, and wire it in without touching any of the factory wiring. One option is to wire it directly into the o2 sensor - as I have extended wires I can tap into.....

3. What are the different wires and what source(s) do I need to tap them into? There is red, black, and purple.....

4. Thanks.
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Old Apr 29, 2003 | 05:03 PM
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red=power source 12v
black=ground
purple=signal from 02 sensor
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Old Apr 29, 2003 | 05:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TypeR76 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">red=power source 12v
black=ground
purple=signal from 02 sensor</TD></TR></TABLE>


Thanks William!

So I can use battery for power source, ground to the closest grounding point on the chassis, and which signal from the o2 sensor do I use? There are 4 wires on the o2 sensor..... (1 white, 1 green, and 2 black. I'm talking about the primary o2 sensor that I checked - I dunno if the 2ndary is different.....)


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Old Apr 29, 2003 | 05:13 PM
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Red wire- connect to a fused and switched 12V positive source that is turned on and off with the ignition switch.
Black wire- connect to good engine ground.
Violet wire- connect to oxygen sensor signal wire. Connect to vehicle wiring harness, not oxygen sensor since some oxygen sensors use a shielded wire.

thats it
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Old Apr 29, 2003 | 05:17 PM
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it should be green wire.
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Old Apr 29, 2003 | 05:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eg_nezay &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Violet wire- connect to oxygen sensor signal wire. Connect to vehicle wiring harness, not oxygen sensor since some oxygen sensors use a shielded wire.

thats it </TD></TR></TABLE>


Anybody know this for sure on an '01 itr? It would ease the installation and cleanliness of the install.....
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Old Apr 29, 2003 | 05:35 PM
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solid white wire. theres only one
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Old Apr 29, 2003 | 08:12 PM
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If your not sure about the wire. Test both with your voltmeter. If you find a wire that makes the bargraph line on the bottom of the meter flux, thats your signal. (Note: only with the car running and in closed loop) If you find one with a solid voltage, then thats a heater wire. There should be two black wires. Those are both grounds for the heater and sensor. A little testing never hurts to be sure. Have fun.
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Old Apr 30, 2003 | 04:08 PM
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.....I just can't really test the signal in the wire without cutting the plastic away.

What would be bad about using a shielded signal as opposed to one that isn't?

And should I use the primary or 2ndary o2 signal?
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Old Apr 30, 2003 | 05:54 PM
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while you guys have this topic open i have a question i would like to add.

do you think it would make any diffrence if you tap the A/F guage signal input wire closer to the ECU or closer to the accual o2 sensor? do you think it would make any diffrence (if at all) for the readings?

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Old Apr 30, 2003 | 06:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Black R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">.....I just can't really test the signal in the wire without cutting the plastic away.

What would be bad about using a shielded signal as opposed to one that isn't?

And should I use the primary or 2ndary o2 signal? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Just backprobe the sensor using a pin. Use the primary HO2S. I'm almost positive that the wire is green.

In relation to "non-VTEC's " question. No it does not matter where you tap into the wires. The responce and sample rate on an Air/Fuel gauge is soooo slow. That's why most people will say that they are pointless. But cool to have for a general idea.......a very general idea.
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Old May 3, 2003 | 08:59 PM
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What about the shielded signal vs. non-shielded?
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Old May 3, 2003 | 10:57 PM
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The o2 signal is always shielded except at joints in the harness. Other important
sensor wires are also shielded.
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Old May 4, 2003 | 05:45 AM
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It does not really matter whether it's shielded or not. That signal is the same no matter where you decide to tap into it. I soddered my signal wire right next to the HO2S and used shrink wrap on it. No problems for two years.
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Old Jun 25, 2003 | 07:13 PM
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why dont you tap into your D14 instead of ******* with engine bay?
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Old Jun 25, 2003 | 11:44 PM
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Tap into your ecu harness. For the 02 signal, it'll be much easier..

Use a splice tap.. can be removed w/ no damage..

No cutting of wires needed.
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