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Old Apr 13, 2003 | 08:58 PM
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I am really really happy with my baseline, it looks like I got a good baseline, and a decent motor to work with. I can't wait for my turbo. It is gonna be awesome. I got this done at Motorsport Dynamics in Sacramento. 143.8 HP and 103.7 TQ for those that can't read it. TQ is on the left, HP is on the right. Mods for those who are curious Comptech SS full exhaust, homemade CAI, and stock header, this was on a 99 B16A2 USDM motor. Any questions feel free to ask.
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Old Apr 13, 2003 | 09:02 PM
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Good ****

I can't wait to get a new car so I can start my turbo project.
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Old Apr 13, 2003 | 09:12 PM
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you base lined with more tq them me (same engine)
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Old Apr 13, 2003 | 10:59 PM
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strong baseline
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Old Apr 13, 2003 | 11:05 PM
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I was really surprised myself as was the guy at Motorsports Dynamics. He was impressed with the motor and the power it put out. He says most of SI's he has dynoed with mods similar to mine don't put out nearly as much power.
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 03:34 AM
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thats crazy, i put out the same numbers with no modifications. then they adjusted the valves, increased timing 4 degrees, decreased fuel pressure 3psi, adjusted the plug gap to .35, and it gained 7hp and 6lb/ft. now its putting out 150.3hp and 111.8lb/ft on a completely stock USDM B16A2.

this was done at Modern Garage in Murray, Utah BTW.
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 05:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Btown_99Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats crazy, i put out the same numbers with no modifications. then they adjusted the valves, increased timing 4 degrees, decreased fuel pressure 3psi, adjusted the plug gap to .35, and it gained 7hp and 6lb/ft. now its putting out 150.3hp and 111.8lb/ft on a completely stock USDM B16A2.

this was done at Modern Garage in Murray, Utah BTW. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'd have to see a dyno plot to believe that. Either that or the dyno that you're using is miscalibrated. 150 whp and 111wtq is pretty far fetched on a STOCK B16.
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 05:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by [VTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">TL]

I'd have to see a dyno plot to believe that. Either that or the dyno that you're using is miscalibrated. 150 whp and 111wtq is pretty far fetched on a STOCK B16.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yea, not hating but thats not too likely on a stock b16. was it the same dyno on both the befor and after?
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 06:00 AM
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What kind of dyno was this done on? I believe it says Dynapak at the top. Isn't that the one SCC used that attaches to the hubs.
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 06:48 AM
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Yeah...good numbers, but that torque "curve" looks like a goddamned lightning bolt. What gives? Maybe I've just gotten too used to looking at corvette dynos with perfectly horizontal torque curves from 2000 to 6500 rpms
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 09:00 AM
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Torque curve looks like that because of the resolution of the dyno software, it takes the useful torque curve and kinda squishes it down, so it ends up looking really exagerrated, if I put the car on a dynojet where the TQ is on the same scale as the HP, it would probably look a lot different.

King Tut, it was done on a dynopak, the one where you attach it at the hubs.
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 09:52 AM
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Those are good numbers for those mods.. I'm going to dyno my car for a baseline tonight before my turbo goes on.. won't have those numbers with my d16 though..
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 09:58 AM
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For dynapacks you should take into consideration that you do not lose any power from wheels or tires. This dyno hooks up to the hubs. You should be about 10 horsepower less to the wheels depending on which ones you use.
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 04:36 PM
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Default Re: My Baseline Dyno before I go turbo. (dkim48)

Well he said with the SIs he has dynoed on his dyno that they dyno less than my car did with similar mods, sometimes even more mods. I don't think you'd lose 10 HP from just having the wheels on the car. That is a lot to lose. I would say maybe 5 or 7 HP. I am happy either way.
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 04:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Btown_99Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats crazy, i put out the same numbers with no modifications. then they adjusted the valves, increased timing 4 degrees, decreased fuel pressure 3psi, adjusted the plug gap to .35, and it gained 7hp and 6lb/ft. now its putting out 150.3hp and 111.8lb/ft on a completely stock USDM B16A2.

this was done at Modern Garage in Murray, Utah BTW. </TD></TR></TABLE>I believe this...I put down 141hp stock, and 154hp with i/h/e, flywheel, and pulley, then 161hp with VAFC tuning.

His tq does look a lil high.
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 05:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Btown_99Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats crazy, i put out the same numbers with no modifications. then they adjusted the valves, increased timing 4 degrees, decreased fuel pressure 3psi, adjusted the plug gap to .35, and it gained 7hp and 6lb/ft. now its putting out 150.3hp and 111.8lb/ft on a completely stock USDM B16A2.

this was done at Modern Garage in Murray, Utah BTW. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Ugh! I hate this 1 up ****, and its always a fuggin n00b.
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 05:53 PM
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Default Re: My Baseline Dyno before I go turbo. (Jackson4Door)

Statement retracted.


Modified by AresB16A2Turbo at 12:30 AM 4/15/2003
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 06:04 PM
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charmcity.... post your dyno when you get a turbo, I have a d16 and was wondering what they can put out turbo'd....
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 10:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jackson4Door &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Ugh! I hate this 1 up ****, and its always a fuggin n00b.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i wasnt trying to one up anyone, i was just saying its not too rare to see B16A's with their HP in the low 140's and torque around 105, both the base line and test runs were done on a mustang load based dynamometer. load based dyno's, by the way, are much more accurate compared to inertia dyno's. just cause im a "fuggin nOOb" doesnt mean i dont know my ****. ill post the dyno sheet up pretty soon.
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 10:46 PM
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believe it or not, here's the proof:



BTW i wasnt trying to prove how much cooler i am because i have 7 more horsepower, i was just trying to say its not abnormal to see those number's from a B16A.
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 10:54 PM
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haha you guys are always talkin **** about n00bs, hows that foot taste now biotches.

Good for you Btown, I'm glad you weren't talkin out of your ***.
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 11:30 PM
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Honestly it looks good BTown, I am just extremely skeptical when a trial user (Noob) comes in talking about these #s with a lot of the experienced guys have not been able to pull from a stock B16 with similar mods to mine, especially just by playing with fuel pressure, etc. Congrats, and I retract my previous statement.
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Old Apr 15, 2003 | 12:44 PM
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its all good. just cause im a noob doesnt mean im not experienced, it just means i dont spend my day's postworing the web. its kinda frustrating when people judge your knowlege based on your post count, but oh well. good luck with the project.
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Old Apr 15, 2003 | 03:52 PM
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damn now im scared. I wonder what kind of hp i will get to the wheels with my jdm b18c-r, base and with the same fuel adjustments.
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