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Old Apr 13, 2003 | 06:35 AM
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Like the title states, can I hit 350 whp with this setup? or is my goal too high? Im not quite sure how much boost I can run on this setup and injectors safely.

LS/VTEC stock bore, GSR intake mani.
Darton sleeved
Endyn 9:1 pistons
Eagle Rods
JG Pro Series Head
Drag Manifold

t3/t04e .57 trim
hondata 2b
delphi 550 injectors, walbro 255lph, aem fpr
2.5" DP and exhaust

Just give me an educated guesstimate. Thanks
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Old Apr 13, 2003 | 06:39 AM
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Default Re: Can I hit 350whp? (intekragsr)

350 should be no problem with a bigger turbo i can see you with 450whp
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Old Apr 13, 2003 | 06:45 AM
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Default Re: Can I hit 350whp? (intekragsr)

350 no problems

be carfeful on the drag manifold though


but besides that your setup you have listed should be good for 400whp +
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Old Apr 13, 2003 | 06:50 AM
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Default Re: Can I hit 350whp? (slowsi00)

Im talking about the turbo I have right now. I dont plan to upgrade any time soon.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slowsi00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">be carfeful on the drag manifold though


but besides that your setup you have listed should be good for 400whp + </TD></TR></TABLE>

400 hp with 550cc injectors? can someone confirm this. I would pee in my pants out of glee if I made 400 on this setup

What is it about the drag manifold that I should be careful of? Spiking? Of the whole year I boosted un-tuned and redlining everyday at .55 kgm, I have not spiked once with my Tial 35mm and AVCR.
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Old Apr 13, 2003 | 07:44 AM
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no propblem, just big boost
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Old Apr 13, 2003 | 07:55 AM
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Default Re: Can I hit 350whp? (intekragsr)

i would say more like 400whp with good tuning on some 118 octane.
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Old Apr 13, 2003 | 10:55 AM
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Default Re: Can I hit 350whp? (intekragsr)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by intekragsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im talking about the turbo I have right now. I dont plan to upgrade any time soon.

400 hp with 550cc injectors? can someone confirm this. I would pee in my pants out of glee if I made 400 on this setup

I made 390 at 20psi with only dsm injectors with that exact turbo. YOu should have no problem..

What is it about the drag manifold that I should be careful of? Spiking? Of the whole year I boosted un-tuned and redlining everyday at .55 kgm, I have not spiked once with my Tial 35mm and AVCR. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Apr 13, 2003 | 10:59 AM
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Default Re: Can I hit 350whp? (tygsr)

400 no probs
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Old Apr 13, 2003 | 12:46 PM
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ok well im in california and will only be running 91 octance daily driver. I built this so I can get to work in a fast car


Any other opinions?
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Old Apr 13, 2003 | 12:48 PM
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Default Re: Can I hit 350whp? (intekragsr)

tune tune tune!!
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Old Apr 13, 2003 | 02:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MiraiZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">tune tune tune!! </TD></TR></TABLE>

haha of course! I plan on lots of dyno tuning.

Any other comments?
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Old Apr 13, 2003 | 03:33 PM
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damn 91 octane i would say around 300ish

on c16 400whp+
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Old Apr 13, 2003 | 05:51 PM
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You can make that power only question is t3/t04e is really effecient up to max around 350 so if u wanna make more power which, with motor setup you have and fuel management you have that option, i would say buy a bigger turbo and get all your power for the $ out of that motor and hondata.
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Old Apr 13, 2003 | 06:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by quikb20 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can make that power only question is t3/t04e is really effecient up to max around 350 so if u wanna make more power which, with motor setup you have and fuel management you have that option, i would say buy a bigger turbo and get all your power for the $ out of that motor and hondata.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You say the t3/to4e is only efficient to 350? Someone told me 450 so I have mixed opinions here. Maybe its the difference of the .54 and .57? I dont want a bigger turbo because I want good drivability will minimal lag.
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 10:03 AM
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57 trim on this turbo would be right about 350, you can make more power than that but you would lose power on the top end, where you could make more going to a bigger turbo. Your goal realistic why not tune and make your goal 350 and then see if you are happy. I would be very happy with 350. good luck. Someone correct me if im wrong though.
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 11:25 AM
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Thats souds about right , with what you said.
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 11:31 AM
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Default Re: Can I hit 350whp? (intekragsr)

57 trim as long as its .63 or .82 turbine will make more then 400 hp easily. You will max out the 550's before the turbo becomes inefficent.

Nice setup by the way.
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 11:35 AM
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a t04e 57trim compressor will give you 70% efficiency at 25psi @ 40lbs/min (roughly 400hp) in contrast it'll be at 50% for the same flow at 16psi. A general rule of thumb i was taught was that the benefits from increased flow beat out the draw backs of decreased thermal efficiency. This doesn't take into consideration what size housings you're using (as far as flowing 40lbs/min). Compressor maps are our friends:
http://www.turboneticsinc.com/comp_maps/fig15.html
The #'s on the left are a ratio not psi:
(ratio x 14.7) - 14.7 = psi

hope this helps. -Mike
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 11:40 AM
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Default Re: Can I hit 350whp? (93LSivic)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93LSivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">57 trim as long as its .63 or .82 turbine will make more then 400 hp easily. You will max out the 550's before the turbo becomes inefficent.

Nice setup by the way.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well thats good to know.

I actually am not looking for more than 350 anymore. That is too unpractical for me, especially on my stock gsr tires, for now. I just got the motor today from Viren, and its getting installed tommorow. Im going on a quest to break-in the motor in 2 days. Im buring cd's at the moment to keep me entertained during a 500-600 mile city drive. Then off to the dyno and I will keep you guys updated.

My next investments are get rid of the POS clutchnet stage 2, get shocks, Falken Azenis, get rid of the stock cat, and possibly an e-cutout (cheezefrog is my hero)
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 11:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Deltax75 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a t04e 57trim compressor will give you 70% efficiency at 25psi @ 40lbs/min (roughly 400hp) in contrast it'll be at 50% for the same flow at 16psi. A general rule of thumb i was taught was that the benefits from increased flow beat out the draw backs of decreased thermal efficiency. This doesn't take into consideration what size housings you're using (as far as flowing 40lbs/min). Compressor maps are our friends:
http://www.turboneticsinc.com/comp_maps/fig15.html
The #'s on the left are a ratio not psi:
(ratio x 14.7) - 14.7 = psi

hope this helps. -Mike
</TD></TR></TABLE>

WOW thanks a lot. That really help. Learn something new everyday
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