OK, so today I changed my rotors, pads, and brake lines with Brembo blanks, EBC green stuff, and Goodridge lines. I also used Valvoline full Synth brake fluid. First off I couldn't get the damned hard line/brake line bolt loose with a 10mm so I had to use channel locks to take it off. Got em on, and then bed all the lines. I let the bleeder valve open, and it "squirted" all fluid three times before I closed it back up. I check for leaks anywhere and there are none to be found. I leave my house to drive up the road and I notice that my brakes have to be pushed very far down before they engage very solidly. I come back and check the brake fluid level, and it is still at the top of the resivoir so again, no leaks. I assume this is normal so I head out for the night and I put on 50 miles on the new brake system. I noticed that if you slightly depress the pedal there is brakign but it is subtle, and if you depress them 1/2 way or more it engages more solidly. Also, I believe that through the progression of the night it started to get a little stiffer. Now, my question is: is this normal, or does it have to do with the fact I have Goodridge lines and synth brake fluid? I plan on bleeding the brakes again at like 130 miles to see if there are any more bubbles in the lines. Please help me and provide me with any info you can on this subject. THANK YOU

 

you need to bleed the brakes properly. you have air in the system and need to gwt it out. also, i the R is set up for Silicone (DOT5) fluid, make sure the synthetic fluid you used is not silicone. you should use a DOT3 or DOT4. but you neeeed to re-bleed the brakes per the helms manual instructions.

 

Don't for get to bleed the master brake cylinder first, then bleed the rest of the brakes.

 

It is air in your brake lines, you need to bleed it again, and I think the correct order is... front left, rear right, front right, rear left (its been a while..)

 

i think its front left, front right, rear rigth, rear left. correct me if i am wrong

 

Actually, for both of my Civics, the bleed sequence starts farthest from the MC, so rear right. Then, you procede in a zig zag manner, so front left is next. Then rear left, and followed by front right. Like this (< points to the front of the car)

<-4- -1-
<
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<-2- -3-

This is the procedure as written in the Helms manuals for 92-00 Civics. Just did this last week after my rear disc swap, and everything is working well.


[Modified by piscorpio, 9:15 PM 4/7/2003]

 

Actually, I did it from the rear right to the rear left to the front right and then front left. Soild as all hell now.

 

I had done it before that way too, worked ok. I was just giving the actual Helms reccomendation.

 

What you listed is pretty safe if you don't know for sure. Sometimes a particular car wants a different order because of how the ABS plumbing is tied into the main brakes. But I think the only consequence of doing the wrong order is that you get air back into a line that you've already bled. So if you just go around a couple more times you're OK.

My '95 GS-R wants RR-LF-LR-RF like you listed. But my '98 Accord wants LF-RF-RR-LR.

 

Bleed the brake master cylinder?

 

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Ummm - What's the question??

You don't bleed the MC separately unless you've just installed a new one.