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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 08:22 PM
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Just finished a b16a swap in a crx si and car will not start. It does not crank or turn over when trying to start car. What could it be?
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 08:25 PM
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Default Re: Finished swap, car will not start. (unabonger)

1st check your negative battery teminal , make sure it is tight
also make sure your grounds are connected


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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 08:38 PM
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OK, how many grounds should there be I checked the ground from the negative terminal and that goes to the clutch cable bracket, checked the valve cover one, also the VTEC one that goes to thermostat housing. Everything seems fine. Am I missing anything else? Thanks for your help.
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 08:41 PM
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Default Re: Finished swap, car will not start. (unabonger)

cover your tracks...make sure your battery has voltage and then check your starter, make sure it is hooked up properly...to turn the car over, you only need a good battery, starter and ignition switch!
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 08:49 PM
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I'm getting voltage from the battery lights all work, radio, etc. The cables hooked up to the starter all look fine and in the right place. You think its the starter itself? I turn the key get the lights inside the cluster, not getting any codes from the ECU. turn it to II and hear the fuel, but when I turn to start NOTHING at all. Im starting to think i have a bad starter, how do I check the starter? Thanks.
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 08:52 PM
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take it off and go to your local parts store and generally they can test it for you...it does sound like you need a new starter.
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 09:11 PM
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OK, thanks hopefully the problem is minor. I'll check the starter out tommorow.
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 09:19 PM
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sounds like no compression, spray some wd40 into your spark plug holes, and let it soak in there for a couple of hrs or even a day, so it can give the pistons some type of enthusiasm. hehe... try to crank it after that, also try manually turning ur crank..just happend to me when i did an accord engine replacement, the motor i bought had been sitting for about 2 yrs outside,


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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 09:21 PM
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or you could check it yourself...just unbolt the starter and get two wires...connecet the wires to the battery ie- speaker wires,etc. connect it to the starter...highly recomend that you put the starter on the ground and use ur foot to hold it. lol, then just connect it and see it spins. hope that helped. save u some money too. peace,B
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 09:28 PM
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Aight Ill try that, when it comes to saving money Im down for anything. Thanks for the tip.
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 11:33 PM
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It could be a few things. You can try to diagnose the problem yourself VERY easily... Pay attention to the dash lights (engine light, oil light, etc) when turning the key. If the lights dim and turn off when you switch the key back to II, then its your ignition switch. If you turn the key, and the lights stay on.. check your clutch switch. This is both assuming that you hear NO sound when turning the key. Meaning not ONE click from the starter solenoid.

Check the wires connected to the starter. You can try to tap the starter a few times and see if that works. If you hear a click inside the engine bay.. check the starter, the grounds, and the battery.

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Old Apr 2, 2003 | 07:37 AM
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It could be a few things. You can try to diagnose the problem yourself VERY easily... Pay attention to the dash lights (engine light, oil light, etc) when turning the key. If the lights dim and turn off when you switch the key back to II, then its your ignition switch. If you turn the key, and the lights stay on.. check your clutch switch. This is both assuming that you hear NO sound when turning the key. Meaning not ONE click from the starter solenoid.

Check the wires connected to the starter. You can try to tap the starter a few times and see if that works. If you hear a click inside the engine bay.. check the starter, the grounds, and the battery.
do this hes right
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Old Apr 2, 2003 | 10:07 AM
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Default Re: Finished swap, car will not start. (RaceFacer)

check your fuses too!
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Old Apr 2, 2003 | 10:53 AM
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Also check your main relay. Located on the left side of the area under the dash, above the clutch pedal.
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Old Apr 2, 2003 | 11:01 AM
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is your main harness grounded to the thermo housing??? its 2 ring connectors. Also check for continunity from you block to any where on the chassis and make sure you are gounded. Your motor isn't locked/seized up is it. Turn the crank a few times by hand and see if its too hard for the starter to turn I had this problem b4 so that why I've givin you this info
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Old Apr 2, 2003 | 03:45 PM
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Aight update, I just checked the starter out and its fine. I am going to start checking for everything else you guys mentioned and possible ground problems, thanks for all the help, really appreciate it. H-T
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Old Apr 2, 2003 | 04:13 PM
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Default Re: Finished swap, car will not start. (unabonger)

Check the wire going to the starter. Starter signal wire. Check it with a test light and see if it lights up at all when you try to start it. The wire could be bad if it is really corroded. And also check to see if your power wire to the starter is solid.

And if you have someone to help push the car and some room... you can try to push start it to see if it runs, then you know it is a problem with the starter connections.

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Old Apr 2, 2003 | 04:56 PM
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Default Re: Finished swap, car will not start. (technine)

OK it was the main relay under the clutch pedal The starter is working when I turn on the ignition now but now its not cranking or turning over. The starter problem is eliminated now to get it crankin. Now all Im hearing is the starter. Im getting sparks from the spark plugs. Oh what could it be? hmmm???
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Old Apr 2, 2003 | 05:31 PM
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Alright, I just want to say thanks for all the help it is really appreciated I got my car started I was overwhelmed with joy when i heard it roar. Thanks yall.
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Old Apr 2, 2003 | 05:57 PM
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I'm having the same problem with the starter with my mini me swap. I can push start the car and get it running fine but when I turn on my turn signal, or step on the brakes, or turn on any accessory on the car the Tach zeros out and the temp needle pegs up. When i turn off the accessory everything goes back to normal??? I'm gonna check that main relay.. is there anything else i should do besides what everyone has posted??

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Old Apr 2, 2003 | 07:50 PM
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are your batt. connections good? i had the same problem in my old truck adn it was a loose batt. connection
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Old Apr 2, 2003 | 08:56 PM
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Change your alternator. ;]
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 06:19 AM
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Make sure that you have good grounds. The negitive battery cable runs to the passenger side frame rail then to the transmission. Make sure those connections are good without corrosion.

Make sure the ground to your head is good.

Add extra grounds if needed. I ran some old monster cable with rings connected to the ends and attached it to the head in a couple of places and to the intake manifold.
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 08:28 AM
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Battery is good. I'm gonna try what you all suggest. troubleshooting sure is a pain in the ****!!!
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 07:11 PM
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Got it running.. i had a loose ground
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