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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 07:43 PM
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Well, since last week my car will not start, all the accessory would work, and when i turn the key i would hear the starter clicking away and see the lights flashing with each click on the dash.

I thought it was the battery after reading:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=277018

So i ordered a new T1R battery, dropped it in, jump started since I was seeing the same scenario as before, but figured it might just be the battery isn't shipped fully charged. After driving it around for 40 minutes, stopped the car, shut it down, and it won't start backup.

Alternator and starter has only 11k miles on it.

Any one has suggestions? This sucks.
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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 08:00 PM
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Default Re: Need information ASAP on battery issue. (bluesaint)

Well, since last week my car will not start, all the accessory would work, and when i turn the key i would hear the starter clicking away and see the lights flashing with each click on the dash.

I thought it was the battery after reading:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=277018


So i ordered a new T1R battery, dropped it in, jump started since I was seeing the same scenario as before, but figured it might just be the battery isn't shipped fully charged. After driving it around for 40 minutes, stopped the car, shut it down, and it won't start backup.

Alternator and starter has only 11k miles on it.

Any one has suggestions? This sucks.
The Honda Alternators aren't big enough to charge the battery, Try to trickle charge it on the lowest charger setting, leave it for about 4-6 hrs, and try it then... If you have access to a meter, you can check it that way too...



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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 08:05 PM
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So your saying even if i leave it on idle for 2 hours or even drive it for 2 hours, the thing will not charge? What good is a alternator?
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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 08:31 PM
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anyone?
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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 08:42 PM
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Default Re: Need information ASAP on battery issue. (bluesaint)

Do you have AEM pullies on your car?? i had an alternator pully and that **** drain the **** out of my battery. Then i went back to the OEM pully and it solved the problem
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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 08:50 PM
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Stock pully.
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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 08:57 PM
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Default Re: Need information ASAP on battery issue. (bluesaint)

your altenator may not be holding the charge. do this, start your car, and pull the neg. battery off, if your headlights get really dim or the ccar stops. you have a no charge in the alternator. check the fluid in the battery too, if its low, put distill water in it. other then that, i don't know what to tell you. do you have a sound system thats connected to it?
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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 09:10 PM
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this is with a brand new dry cell battery (fully charged) no amps or stereo of any kind, i can pull the negative off after car starts and nothing gets dimmed.
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 05:15 AM
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Default Re: Need information ASAP on battery issue. (bluesaint)

Check some auto parts stores in your area. If you have Advance Auto Parts, they'll check your charging system for free.
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 06:51 AM
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Default Re: Need information ASAP on battery issue. (bluesaint)

So your saying even if i leave it on idle for 2 hours or even drive it for 2 hours, the thing will not charge? What good is a alternator?
Alternators are not designed to charge your battery. They are designed to put out enough current to run the car and keep you current battery leavel maintained. So if your battery is weak, its potential energy will most likely not climb much higher than it was when you started the car.

If you have a deep cycle battery, you will need to give it a deep cycle charge. Batteries are not magic. What you put in is what you get out. I would recommend charging the battery for at least 2 or 3 times longer than the deep cycle reserve in minutes.

For example, if the reserve is 200 minutes, charge it for 400 or 600 minutes. This is because the charging curve may not be linear, and if it is exponential, you will need extra charging time.

Do this and you should be good. If you have removed the negative terminal while the car was running and it still ran fine then you are OK on the alternator issue.

A battery's main function is to START your car.

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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 10:49 PM
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Default Re: Need information ASAP on battery issue. (Jon Black)

Funny thing, I installed Tommy Gunn's earthing system this morning and the car can start with it installed.

I checked my stock two engine grounds and they are still connected and the cables still look good. So i guess there might be damage to the stock ground cables that i can't see with the naked eye.
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 10:53 PM
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Default Re: Need information ASAP on battery issue. (bluesaint)

yeah you might have to change your stock ground cables... get some nice thick ones to ground it properly. there's probably build up corrosion and all that nice stuff. it might solve your problem
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 11:53 PM
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Check some auto parts stores in your area. If you have Advance Auto Parts, they'll check your charging system for free.
a good alternator should put out at least 13.8 volts. and when you do a battery load test it shouldnt drop below 9 volts. These tests require a volt meter. Since everything is practically new there may be too much resistance in the cables. so the charge from the alternator isnt reaching the battery. hope any of this info helps


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