i'm replacing the rotors/pads next week and a friend suggested i replace the brake lines with some ss lines.
is this a worthwhile investment or not on a daily driver, with very light track usage?

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=421354. for some info.

I looked quick but did not find the thread about the wear-n-tear of SS lines. The conversasion was that they might have to be replaced every year for safety reasons...

 

Yep, you just gotta keep an eye out for the SS lines. Maybe every other oil change should suffice.

Rubber brake lines give you a warning before they quit, SS lines will not give much of a warning before they fail. Hence, need to check 'em every so often.

 

I talked to the service manager at Acura, and he said as long as you change your brake fluid every other year, SS lines should last the life of the car.

 

Until a small rock gets embedded in the steel weave of the line and causes it to fail and you go back to Acura and they say it's not their fault that your wife and three small children and all dead because you couldn't stop and you rammed in to a semi and it cut all your heads off and you are all dead now.

 

I think Im going to stick with stock brake lines....

 

I see no need for them. Honda brake lines are quite good actually. Make or buy a MC brace if you want firmer pedal feel.

 

yup..

once the car is 10+ years old... then it will be time for replacement.

 

LHT MC brace is a true bolt-on product w/ good quality. Only about ~$50. Highly recommended for better pedal feel. With LHT MC brace, the difference is night and day.

 

Where can I get one?

 

What has always confused me is if SS lines are so vulnerable, why doesn't anyone make SS lines that are covered in some kind of protective plastic coating? That way you get the benefit of the SS and the durability of standard lines? Maybe they do make these, who knows... I just always thought of this whenever anyone posts about rocks getting stuck in the weave of stainless lines.

 

I've been running SS lines for just over 2 years on my GSR and they are still mint. They not only gave me a much firmer pedal feel, but also gave me the excuse I needed to change my fluid out for some Motul.

to SS brake lines.
to skepticism

 

You changed brake lines to have an exuse to change fluid? That's retarded.

If you want to change fluid, CHANGE THE FLUID.

If you want better pedal feel with less effort and less $ get a MC Brace. SS Lines on an ITR do not feel much better than stock and tehy are not worth doing as there is NOTHING wrong with the OEM lines are you are not improving performance at all.

 

Motul fluid will give the car a noticeably firmer pedal feel, when compared to OE or ATE fluids.

Not a very scientific comparison.

 

I wasn't making fun of his choice of fluid RJ. Simply that he used the lines as an *EXCUSE* to change to Motul.

 

You will have to explain this to those watching at home.
How can you determine the difference in compressibility of two different liquids?

 

*runs off to search google*

 

I cant seem to find a chart comparing compressibility values for common racing fluids - however i've felt the effects of this first-hand. The cost of Motul was too much for me to keep using it though. Bleeding my brakes 15 times a year, its not like i dont know how do that job.

While our HS chemistry teachers tell us liquids do not compress, this is only partially true. At high temps and pressures, liquids will compress a small amount. While i didnt see any charts comparing compressibility, i saw the figure "1200psi" a few times. Maybe this is an industry standard?

 

 

Well.. I just drive there or call..

but..

IM "scooter" or "CRVRX" on HT.

 

Becasue there is no such thing. IIRC

Yes... they 'can' compress but it is a negligible amount.

At elevated temperatures... fluids expand.

do you mean 12k-bar?

 

# 1 ...own3d

#2 engineers suck...

nick, who feels the need to mention more than 1/2 of the we-todd krew are engineers


[Modified by Johnny Tran, 4:16 PM 3/12/2003]

 

And the rest of us dropped out of engineering majors in college to make bling. except realtyper, he's retarded

 

Neuspeed lines have a coating of some sort, D has some pix on the site i think, he's got them. Dunno if anyone else uses these, i've always thought they looked pretty good.

 

at least he's not mega-retarded, like mike@ **** imports