this is my setup am i forgetting anything?

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Old Mar 2, 2003 | 09:17 AM
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im doing a full N/A build up on my d16a6 here is what i have should i get anything else or plan on anything else?

pistons, piston rings, piston pins, exhaust, fpr, cam, cam gear, intake. Any other car parts i need or do i sound about set...ohh yeah i still need valve springs, im waiting to hear about them though. So hows it look?

p.s. i've got a clutch on the way too.


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Old Mar 2, 2003 | 09:26 AM
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if your tearing it apart your gonna need all gaskets, seals, and bearings.
I would also recommend a fuel rail and depending on what cam you get you may need new valves. HIH
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Old Mar 2, 2003 | 09:47 AM
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ahh yes, i forgot about those. They were the first things i bought. Im pretty sure i dn't need the valves though i'll double check. hmm....i never pondered the fuel rail. I was always told the honda fuel rail was very well designed and could supply the fuel to upper levels of power.
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Old Mar 2, 2003 | 10:35 AM
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it can you dont need a new one. (fuel rail) cam gear new timming belt and roller rocker assmbly.

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Old Mar 2, 2003 | 10:41 AM
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**** the fpr. use an safc or some other means of electronic fuel management. fprs dont allow for presison tuning at all
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Old Mar 2, 2003 | 11:06 AM
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Default Re: this is my setup am i forgetting anything? (limoZeen)

While you're at it you might want to think about getting the head work, port and polished. The best setup is actually a FPR plus a AFC. It allows you to bump the FP, then fine tune it with the AFC.
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Old Mar 2, 2003 | 11:17 AM
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interesting thoughts. I'll have to look into the safc see if i can afford it, im just about out of money haha. The porting will happen later in the summer. I've got 2 heads here im going to learn on and once i feel confident im going to try my luck on my head.

welp i just picked up an safc, good stuff, thanks for the info, keep it coming if you've got more! woo!


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Old Mar 2, 2003 | 11:34 AM
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While you're at it you might want to think about getting the head work, port and polished. The best setup is actually a FPR plus a AFC. It allows you to bump the FP, then fine tune it with the AFC.
thats counter productive. basicly your fixing your retardly high fuel pressure w/ an afc.

basic bolt ons dont require any additional fuel at all. hondas run rich as **** from the factory as it is. if anything you'll be leaning out your mixture. if you do it w/ a fpr, its lean X% across the board. w/ an an electronic fuel management device you can lean out parts that are too rich and enrichen the parts that are too lean. fprs only allow for too rich or too lean.

fprs adjust on a linear level only. as manifold pressure increase so does fuel pressure. so at 8k when i already made peak trq at 6500 (which is where i would require more fuel), im running rich as **** thus hurting performance.

im running 45psi on my fpr... now im going to lean everything out w/ my afc to compensate for my errors...... i see no point.



i have the same set up as this guy and then some. my compression is retardedly high, my cam is huge, my injectors are huge, my ignition is silly, my head has extensive machineing etc etc etc etc.
my fuel mods are this:

and


and my fuel pressure is at the stock 38psi


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Old Mar 2, 2003 | 11:45 AM
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well said...now i feel stupid for buying that fpr...hmm, anyone wanna buy an fpr? haha
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Old Mar 2, 2003 | 11:53 AM
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well said...now i feel stupid for buying that fpr...hmm, anyone wanna buy an fpr? haha
im not trying to make you feel stupid for buying one. people just think that their intake is sucking up SOOOOO much air that the stock injectors and ecu cant handle it. this is absolutly not the case.

i have never in my life seen something lean out b/c the fuel pressure wasnt high enough if they had injectors and a fuel pump. increase injector duration on the stock pressure of the system with a monster fuel pump and you'll never lean out.

oh, im using 450cc injectors on a stock pump btw
now everyone will come runing in "OMFG that wont work on an NA car!!!!!!!!!!!"
sure it does if you can tune. thats my daily driver.


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Old Mar 2, 2003 | 07:47 PM
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Default Re: this is my setup am i forgetting anything? (limoZeen)

I/H/E, cams, and porting all increase air flow. If you take a honda with these mods to the dyno you can usually make more power by bumping the FP. You can fine tune the mixture at every rpm with the AFC. You can also do this by increasing the duration of the injector, but doing so with FP and AFC is easier and you can do it on the dyno.
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Old Mar 2, 2003 | 07:55 PM
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I/H/E, cams, and porting all increase air flow. If you take a honda with these mods to the dyno you can usually make more power by bumping the FP. You can fine tune the mixture at every rpm with the AFC. You can also do this by increasing the duration of the injector, but doing so with FP and AFC is easier and you can do it on the dyno.
scroll up. and how is it easier? its more **** to screw around with
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