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HELP, need Koni/ground control CONFIRMATION

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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 10:24 AM
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Default HELP, need Koni/ground control CONFIRMATION

okay, just got these delivered to me...
i was suppose to get the koni yellow and ground control for a 94 civic hatchback si..
when i opened it up, it didnt look right to me, (im new at the suspension thing), i need confirmation that it's NOT RIGHT because im almost 100% sure its not the right ones...

here goes...

notice the bottom set for the fronts...doesnt look like its going into my wishbone
here's the part number for the supposely back shocks HOW COME ONE SAYS SPORTS AND THE OTHER SAYS SPECIAL
here's the part number for the fronts
here's the ground control (ARE THEY THE SPECIFIC KONI GC)
and here's the numbers...

please, i need identification of these. im almost 100% sure that these arent the correct ones. remember its for a 94 civic hatchback si...
thanks


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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 11:08 AM
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http://www.koni.com

Civic 1.5 Coupé (USA) types EG, EH
with these sport dampers the car can be lowered Fr/Rr: approx. 25-15 mm 93-95 N6 8041-1152Sport R4 8041-1153Sport (rears)


And those others arent even listed on the Honda parts page.
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 11:10 AM
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i believe they're suppose to look like these...(took it off someone's thread)




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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 11:11 AM
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I believe a guy who works for KONI posts in the Road Racing/Autocrossing forum as "CRX Lee." Try asking in there.
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 11:13 AM
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so then they sent me 2 rear sets instead of a front/rear set
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 11:14 AM
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OKAY HERE GOES.
the top set with a Y at the bottom of the shocks is correct for your car and is a rear set, nice that they have 5 heights for the C-clip too!

the bottom set with the round bushing at the bottom of the shocks is a rear set for an Integra Type R or CRX style possibly.

so, you got two sets of rears. one works with ITR rear LCA's the other set works with Civic rear LCA's.

good luck bro
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 11:18 AM
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what about the gc, are they correct (are they the koni specific gc's or just regular civic gc?)
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 11:26 AM
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The fronts are correct, the 1252 is WRONG!
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 11:32 AM
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The fronts fit into a clamp on the control arm. Also make sure you have the adapter for your ground controls to fit onto the Konis.



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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 11:39 AM
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The fronts fit into a clamp on the control arm. Also make sure you have the adapter for your ground controls to fit onto the Konis.

[Modified by mike01civiccoupe, 8:32 PM 2/22/2003]
are the black thingy in the gc the adapters?


if they're not the adapters than what is?
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 12:29 PM
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They are little "C" clips that fit over the Koni spring perch so your GC sleeve sits on top. Maybe your GC's don't need them, but I was under the impression most GC's needed them.
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 12:41 PM
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i believe i got the specific made gc for koni's
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 01:54 PM
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There was a part mixup by the shipping dept. of whoever you bought them from.

Your part number 8041-1153 Sport is correct for the rear but the other pair with the round eyes on the bottom are wrong. You want part number 8041-1152 Sport and they gave you 8041- 1252 Sport. The part numbers are off by one digit but those shocks are the rear shocks from a '88-03 Mazda Miata. Whoever took them off the shelf just made an easy mistake.

Call your dealer and tell them you got the wrong part number and they should switch them right out. Don't get irate with them if you can avoid it because that only complicated things, obviously there was no plan to mess with you but just a simple human error.

If I can help, let me know.
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 02:24 PM
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I also believe to use Konis with GC you need a special adapter or something. I don't remember exactly.

* $10 per corner additional for billet aluminum Koni or Bilstein adapters. No extra charge for any other shock. Please don't try to make another kit fit on Koni or Bilstein. It doesn't work for GC or any other coilover kit.


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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 03:50 PM
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I also believe to use Konis with GC you need a special adapter or something. I don't remember exactly.
THAT IS THE BLACK RING in his picture of the ground control sleeves...... the black ring inside the GC sleeve, that is the magic KONI ADAPTER... that sits directly on the Koni C-Clip and thus you do NOT need to use the shiny silver spring perch that clangs around when going over bumps
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 06:29 PM
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thanks guys for helping me get this cleared out...
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