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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 01:46 PM
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I plan on running nitrous soon and was wondering what kind of plugs to run, I did a search and found somone saying NGK BKR7E plugs. Are these universal plugs? Will they work in a H23? why are these so cheep (found them for $2.50 ea) are they better then the over priced platnum plugs?
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 01:48 PM
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BKR7E is a B-series plug as far as I've seen. If you want colder plugs for a H-series, look for ZFR7F-11. Those are copper and run around $2.00-2.50
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 02:35 PM
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Actully it was laughinxxx who said it in another nitrous post
A 75 shot will be fine, but pick up some NGK-BKR7E plugs
I just dont want to order a set only to find out they are the wrong ones
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 02:37 PM
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I also need the colder NGK's for my H23. Don't get a platinum tipped one, b/c when you spray it will just burn off the platinum that you paid extra for. Is there a better place to buy them from other than the local NAPA?
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 02:39 PM
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I run BCPR7ES-11's, part # 1095 at Napa
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 02:58 PM
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I run BCPR7ES-11's, part # 1095 at Napa
Brian
I run the same. Good plug.
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 04:05 PM
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and this is a colder plug (BCPR7ES-11) which would be suitable for a nitrous application?
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 05:00 PM
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Yes, one step colder than stock
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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 02:05 PM
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Does anyone know what to GAP the BKR7E at? Do they even need to be gapped? =D
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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 02:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cpforyou &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Does anyone know what to GAP the BKR7E at? Do they even need to be gapped? =D</TD></TR></TABLE>
That would depend on what you are using them for.
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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 03:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sharkcohen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
That would depend on what you are using them for.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I didn't GAP mine at all. I used it as it came out of the box, and it works fine for All-Motor H22A
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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 04:05 PM
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I'm using ZFR7F-11 plugs. I've also used BKR7E's... I prefer the ZFR's because of the projected tip
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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 06:19 PM
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what would happen if your allmotor and use one step hotter to help with burn off the carbon buildup.

also whats the difference with ZFR7F-11 and BCPR7ES-11
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Old Dec 28, 2003 | 01:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by specalk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what would happen if your allmotor and use one step hotter to help with burn off the carbon buildup.

also whats the difference with ZFR7F-11 and BCPR7ES-11</TD></TR></TABLE>

Depends on what you think All Motor is....






Modified by Cottonwoodz at 4:41 AM 12/28/2003
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Old Dec 28, 2003 | 01:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by specalk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

also whats the difference with ZFR7F-11 and BCPR7ES-11</TD></TR></TABLE>
ZFR7's have a projected tip
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Old Dec 28, 2003 | 02:33 PM
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Just rev the car alot. No carbon.
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Old Dec 28, 2003 | 04:16 PM
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The bkr7e's are not just a B-series spark plug. They work great for all the other honda motors as well. The 7 series are also 2 stages colder then stock, since stocks are 5 series. Usually for all motor apps you want a stage 6.

The projected tips are not the best to use for a FI application since the tip will sit a bit further down inside of the combustion chamber. The tip will be exposed to greater heats and can lead to pre-ignition and/or detonation.

The BCP7ES are the plugs to use. Get plug number '3330', they are the exact same as the 1095 but come with a gap of .032 instead of .044. That means less stress the tip receive when re-gapping them for your application.

The BCP7's are better then the BKR7E's because of what I mentioned earlier. The BCP's have a shorter insulator and tip then the BKR7s do. The further it sits in the combustion chamber the plug tip will be exposed to higher temps which can lead to pre-ign or deton as mentioned earlier.

p.s. I believe XES runs the ZRF's with over 500whp but when compared to the bcp's you can see the bcp's are theoretically 'safer.'

Cliff notes: 3330's work great

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Old Dec 28, 2003 | 06:46 PM
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bkr7e, i think that's the same plugs i used in my turbo accord before.

they work fine, not too cold to get foul so fast.

depends how you define all motor, if you put a hotter plugs in and your compression is ultra high, bang, two flame front

copper works just fine for honda, v power copper for me
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 05:49 AM
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What would be a good plug to use for all motor. 6 series plug with nice gap and who sells them..?

Thanks in advance..
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Old Dec 31, 2003 | 07:27 AM
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Default Re: ngk bkr7e Plugs (Jason kiDD)

ok ive tried a few differnt plugs. isnt stock a 6 heat range not 5? h22 anyway.

i used the zfr7's and it worked great. the bcpr have a flat electrode while the zfr's have v-grove. i have the bkr's in there now, and maybe thats my problem...thought it was the igniter but im going to try that.
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