F-max turbo kits vs Drag kits
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F-max turbo kits vs Drag kits
Anyone have experience with either kit on their R. Which one is better? Pros & Cons, compare and Contrast. Is there something out there that is better than either one?
I tried searching, but only came up with for sale ish and a flywheel discussion. No real good info.
I tried searching, but only came up with for sale ish and a flywheel discussion. No real good info.
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Re: F-max turbo kits vs Drag kits (DOSPOWND)
Fmax has way better fuel management in my opinion and back in the day when I was going to boost my SI they told me if your local and buy from them they will install for free 
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Fmax has way better fuel management in my opinion and back in the day when I was going to boost my SI they told me if your local and buy from them they will install for free
I was told that I am the only guy with an FMAX on a Type R...
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Re: F-max turbo kits vs Drag kits (underrated99si)
Fmax has way better fuel management in my opinion and back in the day when I was going to boost my SI they told me if your local and buy from them they will install for free
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Re: F-max turbo kits vs Drag kits (sgT)
i always loved my fmax kit. I had problems with the MF2 that comes with the fmax kit but it was because i had it setup wrong. After i got it figured out it ran great. This was on a gsr. 9 psi and pump gas on slicks the car went 13.07 @110/
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F-max's fuel managment sux...and it will not work on a Type R. But overall, the kit is pretty sound...F-MAX'x customer service does suck though!
I was told that I am the only guy with an FMAX on a Type R...
I was told that I am the only guy with an FMAX on a Type R...
Yes their customer service does BLOW, but I *highly* doubt that you are the only one with an fmax kit on an itr. Maybe on this forum, but not elsewhere...
I've been in quite a few fmax vs drag debates, more than ready for another.
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Re: F-max turbo kits vs Drag kits (sgT)
Extra injectors work well only if the injectors are ported with the OEM injectors at the intake manifold. Had FMAX done this, then they would have a kick *** fuel solution. Instead the place the extra injectors at the bend on the intake pipe, wich really sucks. All the fuel get sucked in by the first two cylinders and causes it run super rich, and the other two run lean. Poor fuel distribution!!!
If you are going FMAX on an ITR, ditch the fuel setup and save yourself $200 and put that money towards a standalone. Get yourself some larger injectors at the intake mani.
If you are going FMAX on an ITR, ditch the fuel setup and save yourself $200 and put that money towards a standalone. Get yourself some larger injectors at the intake mani.
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Re: F-max turbo kits vs Drag kits (apexii)
Why will the erl mf2 not work on the itr? Please do explain. There are many mf2 haters out there, but considering the choices(mf2 or RRR)l; I liked the mf2 much better. It was safer and more reliable. To each his own, I guess.
Yes their customer service does BLOW, but I *highly* doubt that you are the only one with an fmax kit on an itr. Maybe on this forum, but not elsewhere...
I've been in quite a few fmax vs drag debates, more than ready for another.
Yes their customer service does BLOW, but I *highly* doubt that you are the only one with an fmax kit on an itr. Maybe on this forum, but not elsewhere...
I've been in quite a few fmax vs drag debates, more than ready for another.
As for being the only Type R + FMAX, this is what Jhame told me last year, and for that, he would have a "hard time" supporting me in case of problems...little did i know that I'd get NO support.
There may be another R + FMAX out there, but i doubt it....I think most of the Turbo R's are Drag, REV HARD, Greddy, HKS, Apex'i, or Top Fuel. There definately isn't another JDM R + FMAX...I know this for sure![Modified by MiraiZ, 7:53 AM 2/21/2003]
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Re: F-max turbo kits vs Drag kits (DOSPOWND)
Is there something out there that is better than either one?
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Re: F-max turbo kits vs Drag kits (newt2)
Is there something out there that is better than either one?
IMO, if you're going to use a kit, the Greddy w/intercooler is the way to go. I've seen about a dozen cars with drag kits blow up, but everyone I know running a Greddy is still on thier first motor, some with 50,000 miles or more turbo'd.
IMO, if you're going to use a kit, the Greddy w/intercooler is the way to go. I've seen about a dozen cars with drag kits blow up, but everyone I know running a Greddy is still on thier first motor, some with 50,000 miles or more turbo'd.
. The handful I`ve see dyno`d were making jrsc type numbers (peak hp), if that.
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Re: F-max turbo kits vs Drag kits (DOSPOWND)
Is there something out there that is better than either one?
i was going to get drag kit but didn't like the manifold, fmax was more expensive and greddy has small turbo and internal wastegate - too many things to be modified.. maxrev - i was going to purchase but too much diy and wasn't sure about turbocharger clearance (i would not want to shave the block if possible)
- in all kits you'd want to upgrade to tial wastegate as well as fuel managment (standalone/intank fuel pump/injectors/f.p.r),
- you'd also want at least 2.5" downpipe (i think you must note to fmax or you'll end up with 2"),
- manifolds, a race manifold is what you want - but may have to exclude a/c power steering,
- if more $$$ to spend, then upgrade to ball bearing, you could replace oil return line with steel braided.
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- in all kits you'd want to upgrade to tial wastegate as well as fuel managment (standalone/intank fuel pump/injectors/f.p.r),
- you'd also want at least 2.5" downpipe (i think you must note to fmax or you'll end up with 2"),
- manifolds, a race manifold is what you want - but may have to exclude a/c power steering,
- if more $$$ to spend, then upgrade to ball bearing, you could replace oil return line with steel braided.
but if you like the shiney pipes, then I guess DRAG is better....FMAX only makes t he pipe in different colors.
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Why will the erl mf2 not work on the itr? Please do explain. There are many mf2 haters out there, but considering the choices(mf2 or RRR)l; I liked the mf2 much better. It was safer and more reliable. To each his own, I guess.
Yes their customer service does BLOW, but I *highly* doubt that you are the only one with an fmax kit on an itr. Maybe on this forum, but not elsewhere...
I've been in quite a few fmax vs drag debates, more than ready for another.
First of all, the location of the injectors just didn't work (as explained above). Second, the potometers (sp) programmed into the MF2 came all wrong and no matter how much I fiddled with it, I could not get even fuel distribution. I did come close once, but it cause my engine to run dangerously lean or overly rich everywhere ( I guess if I were patient, I could have got it to work eventually, but couldn't be bothered anymore...it REALLY frustrated the hell out of me) Whereas my Power FC, all I had to do was play with the correction map and I got even fuel all across the board no matter what, because it uses the installed injectors like a true stand alone.
As for being the only Type R + FMAX, this is what Jhame told me last year, and for that, he would have a "hard time" supporting me in case of problems...little did i know that I'd get NO support. There may be another R + FMAX out there, but i doubt it....I think most of the Turbo R's are Drag, REV HARD, Greddy, HKS, Apex'i, or Top Fuel. There definately isn't another JDM R + FMAX...I know this for sure!
[Modified by MiraiZ, 7:53 AM 2/21/2003]
Yes their customer service does BLOW, but I *highly* doubt that you are the only one with an fmax kit on an itr. Maybe on this forum, but not elsewhere...
I've been in quite a few fmax vs drag debates, more than ready for another.
First of all, the location of the injectors just didn't work (as explained above). Second, the potometers (sp) programmed into the MF2 came all wrong and no matter how much I fiddled with it, I could not get even fuel distribution. I did come close once, but it cause my engine to run dangerously lean or overly rich everywhere ( I guess if I were patient, I could have got it to work eventually, but couldn't be bothered anymore...it REALLY frustrated the hell out of me) Whereas my Power FC, all I had to do was play with the correction map and I got even fuel all across the board no matter what, because it uses the installed injectors like a true stand alone.
As for being the only Type R + FMAX, this is what Jhame told me last year, and for that, he would have a "hard time" supporting me in case of problems...little did i know that I'd get NO support.
There may be another R + FMAX out there, but i doubt it....I think most of the Turbo R's are Drag, REV HARD, Greddy, HKS, Apex'i, or Top Fuel. There definately isn't another JDM R + FMAX...I know this for sure![Modified by MiraiZ, 7:53 AM 2/21/2003]
Regarding my last comment, please forgive me; I forgot you are in JDM land!!!
Bummer to hear you got crappy, I mean NO support from them. That sucks, I know the feeling though. They are, or WERE a horribly run company. I have one of their prototype kits for my prelude, they were less than helpful when I needed any assistance.
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