www.TEINUSA.com Question: Feedback, Performance, Revalving VS Koni revalving
The past few days Ive been tossing the idea of getting Koni Yellows or Tein SS/FLEX.
Ive read enough reviews through our search engine in HT. I would like to know some more feedback on each company with their methods of revalving. Koni seems to be a simple company to go through as far as revalving and it seems that their warranty MIGHT be a little bit more lenient. KONI does not support the use of external sleeve coilovers I.E. Skunk2 or Ground Control.
http://www.TEINUSA.com seems to not work. How would I get a hold of TEIN to do revalving?
Here is some background: I like comfortable, REAL low, longevity and handling.
The feedback Ive gotten from KONI's is that they are much stiffer and MAY not last as long as the TEIN's. Ive ridden in a TEIN SS (pillowmounts too) ITR before and a Tokico Illumina ITR. My guess is that the Illumina's have a similiar ride to that of Koni, since they were kind of rough from the get go.
TEIN systems already come with the Pillow mounts to begin with but I hear is NOT suggested for the street. As the chassis would need some give and these do not allow it.
If I were to get the KONI setup, I would IMMEDIATELY upgrade the bushings to poly bushings.
Give me some feedback on what you think might be more suitable for me. The price difference of the 2 ARENT that much different, believe it or not.
--migs
Ive read enough reviews through our search engine in HT. I would like to know some more feedback on each company with their methods of revalving. Koni seems to be a simple company to go through as far as revalving and it seems that their warranty MIGHT be a little bit more lenient. KONI does not support the use of external sleeve coilovers I.E. Skunk2 or Ground Control.
http://www.TEINUSA.com seems to not work. How would I get a hold of TEIN to do revalving?
Here is some background: I like comfortable, REAL low, longevity and handling.
The feedback Ive gotten from KONI's is that they are much stiffer and MAY not last as long as the TEIN's. Ive ridden in a TEIN SS (pillowmounts too) ITR before and a Tokico Illumina ITR. My guess is that the Illumina's have a similiar ride to that of Koni, since they were kind of rough from the get go.
TEIN systems already come with the Pillow mounts to begin with but I hear is NOT suggested for the street. As the chassis would need some give and these do not allow it.
If I were to get the KONI setup, I would IMMEDIATELY upgrade the bushings to poly bushings.
Give me some feedback on what you think might be more suitable for me. The price difference of the 2 ARENT that much different, believe it or not.
--migs
If you want comfortable and *real low*, then you'll need something more adjustable, like the Tein Type flex that won't compromise shock travel when you lower the car.
While Koni/ground controls are good, you'll need to get the Konis revalved and shortened to get the desired affect. I'm sure the shock service alone will run you over $200 per shock.
Actually, wnen you price it out, sometimes the JDM coilovers are actually a cheaper and easier way to go for most people.
While Koni/ground controls are good, you'll need to get the Konis revalved and shortened to get the desired affect. I'm sure the shock service alone will run you over $200 per shock.
Actually, wnen you price it out, sometimes the JDM coilovers are actually a cheaper and easier way to go for most people.
If your priorities are comfort, low stance and longevity (in that order), you might not
need to consider any sort of revalving, just your standard off the shelf Koni Yellow shock combined with GC's new upper mount.
What about the Koni/GC combo using the new Ground_Control uppper mount that allows extra travel? (see their website for info on the upper mount)
You can choose the spring rates you want, for comfort. Get the lowered stance via the coilover sleeves and custom upper mount. Longevity from a reputable shock (Koni yellow).
This combo probably cost less than the comparable Tein system too! Yes, I know it's not a true coilover, no need to argue that fact.
[Modified by emr88, 9:30 AM 2/17/2003]
need to consider any sort of revalving, just your standard off the shelf Koni Yellow shock combined with GC's new upper mount.
What about the Koni/GC combo using the new Ground_Control uppper mount that allows extra travel? (see their website for info on the upper mount)
You can choose the spring rates you want, for comfort. Get the lowered stance via the coilover sleeves and custom upper mount. Longevity from a reputable shock (Koni yellow).
This combo probably cost less than the comparable Tein system too! Yes, I know it's not a true coilover, no need to argue that fact.
[Modified by emr88, 9:30 AM 2/17/2003]
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If your priorities are comfort, low stance and longevity (in that order), you might not
need to consider any sort of revalving, just your standard off the shelf Koni Yellow shock combined with GC's new upper mount.
What about the Koni/GC combo using the new Ground_Control uppper mount that allows extra travel? (see their website for info on the upper mount)
You can choose the spring rates you want, for comfort. Get the lowered stance via the coilover sleeves and custom upper mount. Longevity from a reputable shock (Koni yellow).
This combo probably cost less than the comparable Tein system too! Yes, I know it's not a true coilover, no need to argue that fact.
[Modified by emr88, 9:30 AM 2/17/2003]
need to consider any sort of revalving, just your standard off the shelf Koni Yellow shock combined with GC's new upper mount.
What about the Koni/GC combo using the new Ground_Control uppper mount that allows extra travel? (see their website for info on the upper mount)
You can choose the spring rates you want, for comfort. Get the lowered stance via the coilover sleeves and custom upper mount. Longevity from a reputable shock (Koni yellow).
This combo probably cost less than the comparable Tein system too! Yes, I know it's not a true coilover, no need to argue that fact.
[Modified by emr88, 9:30 AM 2/17/2003]
This is why you must shorten/revalve them if you intend on slamming the car.
Why don't you just put in an airbag suspension? That way you can go as low as you want.
If you want real low - you're not going to have enough travel in the suspension and are constantly going to hit the bumpstops and have a crap ride.
If you want real low - you're not going to have enough travel in the suspension and are constantly going to hit the bumpstops and have a crap ride.
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Teins all the way on this one. Great customer service. I have two sets of Teins and I'm very satisfied with them.
[Modified by Supertwinz, 12:53 PM 2/17/2003]
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