Want to go with a b18b, at the same time want the b20....HELP ME CHOOSE?

 

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(personally i would go B18)

 

B20 for maximum power. I just made a post on this a while back...

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Blaze

 

wanna go with the b20, BUT little low on cash......is b20 more expensive to put in, and is it worth it?

 

 

(i'm from Saint Paul, Minnesota too.....

dude your not ready for a damn swap. It's not like if we help you decide today your gonna actually go out and get it. Take your time(save money) and learn about everthing there is to hondas.
As you investigate you will see that the answers you use to have will slowley disapte.
*your ORIGNAL question is very vaugh and un-specifec. For anyone to answer that would be based on not even really understanding what your needs are from the motor. Also swaping in a motor is not as easy and just picking one out. You'll have to learn the pros & cons of each motor.

My final advice.... read up on what you plan on doing.....Then ask intellegent questions and post with detailed/specific closed end questions.

HTH
IM me if you want my opinion between the two motors.


[Modified by Charlie Moua, 6:55 AM 1/28/2003]

 

you type that long *** post going off on a tangent because he asks about which motor to get, but you can't even answer his question in the thread? what a dick .

 

right on mang he jus askin him a simple question

 

Well from what i've been told that b20 is one or THE ''strongest" honda motor out there? So if thats true then i'd go for b20.

 

B20, B20, B20!!!!!!!

Don't make the same mistake I did. I swapped a B18B into my Civic HB and was GRAVELY disappointed. In less than a year, the B18B was out and a B20Z was in. Needless to say, I am MUCH happier with the B20. It was worth every penny!

 

Damn dude ur pretty harsh, enough said....just wanted people's opinion first, see what people had to say. Didnt have to be such a ***** about things....all u had to say was B18 or b20 like everyone else. *READ THE TOPIC*, and i have been doing research on the 2 motors, and another thing BUDGET is a key role in this for me!!!!!!


RE: this is for CHARLIE MOUA


[Modified by thelittleCRXthatCoulD, 10:15 AM 1/29/2003]

 

I agree with Charlie.

If you really did research you wouldnt be asking <FONT COLOR="red">us</FONT> what <FONT COLOR="red">you</FONT> should buy.

Personally if your going b18b or b20 youre probably going to turbo. If you are on a budget...dont turbo. If you are just buying a motor straight out and your not going to do any work to it, dont get a b18b you will run a low 15. If you buy a b20 you will be a bit faster...but not a ton. And your car will be unbalanced. But if your buying an engine for a drag car thats a different story.

You cant just say b18 or b20...there are just way to many factors to think about.

-Jake

 

The only downside to the B20s ios that they have 7mm sleeves compared to the 9mm sleeves that are on all other hondas.

Blaze

 

hey man did you see the bottom where i said "IM me if you want my opinion between the two motors"
**If they did search I 100% garentee that he will find what he's looking for.

I normally am very helpful and willing to help newbies but lately i have grone tired of STUPID newbi question. If they are a newbi they need to ask better questions. Also if they would use the search button they would learn alot more!
-I personally spend the majority of my time on honda-tech in the archived/search section. That's were the really good info is.

Now to answer the orginal QUESTION...being that it was a short & un detaild question i will give you a short and undetailed(un-specifed) answer: "go B20"

if you want put others down do it buy IM me next time. I have no problem with disputing/backing up my posts with given facts and information.

But the way i do not and will not flame newbies because I still concider my self one!
I;m sure that after reading my 1st response he probably did more creative thinking
rather than just post evey question that he has.

(thanks SuperHatch) for backing me up!
less post and more reasearch/reading

 

To clear things up, CHARLIE!!!! I do infact need help deciding today. Why u ask? My little CRX that could, is now the little CRX that CANT. My stock motor is dead, after buying the little demon (which had over 200,000 miles on it) little did i know timing belt snapped valves are bent, the engine is dead. I plain on repairing it but whats the point when i know im gonna SWAP motors anyway right! So thats when the forum comes in to play, being a NOOB as i am, needing help on decions on which motor people think would be a good idea to swap. So therefore "I NEED A NEW MOTOR A.S.A.P." so there was no need to say such harsh things like "ur not ready for a damn swap". NOOBS need help too, ya catch my drift.

 

Here i am again tryin to back my noobie *** up. As u can also see im new to this posting stuff such as the honda-tech forum. Never knew about the "search" thingy everyones talking bout, thx for the info. And again...everyone in this honda-tech forum was a noobie once. I was just trying to make the post nice and simple"b18 or b20" did i need the post to be 3 pages long for mr. smart *** to understand all the little details on y i made this post, when a little sentence would of done the trick. I of course know u had no reason to make such comments this. And again I am in need of a motor asap, everyone has to work right. Thought this forum would help, but i guess there are s.o.b.'s out there wanting to make u feel stupid.

 

well i'm glad that you see my point. I do not wish to make this a big flame war.
okay now i know where you are coming from(story about bent valve)

DID you try search yet? if not here is my opinion:

i personally would go for the B20..b or z
They will have lower miles period rather than some other LS motor(unless it's a mint low milage one)
The displacent of .2 liter is a noticeable differece manily in tourqe. Many have said and i quote "B20 is like a B18b on steroids"
also they fact that they come at a reasonable price.
the heads of the B20 and B18b are the same. cams are almost identical(nothing noticable)
get rid of the nasty stock exhust and Intake manifold.
i have seen dyno charts of stock B20 with only o/i/e that dyno at 130whp some even higher. it would definately be worth doing a cheap all motor B20.

do search and then ask me more questions if you have any left. I'm willing to help out were i can. I as i stated before i did not intend to put down or imbaress anyone. Do you have IM yet or do newbies have to wait a while?

also read my post agian.
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which valves are bent?
is there damage to the pistion at all?
why donn't you just put in new valves for the one that is bent. It's not hard at all man, i just bent 1 valve when my accord timing belt snaped too. I replaced it and ran good as new if not better. I also have a 1990 civic si, did you want my motor for cheap? it has 168k but the compression numbers speak for them selves 170,175,175,175
let me know

HTH

 

isn't the only difference between the b20z and the b18 is that the b20 has
a larger bore and a somewhat larger stroke (like 2mm).
what im trying to say is that isn't the b20z just a b18 that has been bored out,
and if you were to put the b20z into an integra which comes from factory with a
b18 would you need to get modified motor mounts and a new shift linkage.

sorry to ask a question when I should be answering the question but i'm in the same situation.

by the way if they are basically the same I would definitely have to get the b20z
because it has more discplacement, and a better compression ratio then the b20b.

 

Dont know which valves are bent, havent checked on it yet, will do so this SAT. Doesnt really matter, was planning on swapping my motor anyways, thats y i posted on this forum. No need for me buying ur old civic motor, just wanna swap in a b series motor, but thx for the offer. Getting a b16a head this weekend too, so might have to buy a b18b have to let the b20 go........ 800 bucks plus 200-300 bucks for the tranny and all that, is too much for me at the moment." I AM BROKE" hope to buy another CRX too, maybe ill through all ive got into getting that B20. Well gotta do some more research. Thx for all the post, well not CHARLIE'S first 2 post up there but his 3rd post made my anger go down for him, and seems like I need all the help i can get. Thx for ur lost post CHARLIE.

 

i FEEL for u brotha "PREECH ON"...lol

 

haha lol manegj!!! it's all gravy baby... .I would rather IM you and talk about everything but it sucks that you h-t does't let trail users access IM yet.

well if you want my honest opinion on the B16(i know your just geting the head)
it's not worth it unless you plan on doing some major mods for all-motor. Turbo B16 has been done to death but it will be fast though!
the b16 just seems like my d16 except after 5500...which is ok for some people but for me.....&gt;when i do a swap i would like to be able to feel the difference in daily driving condtions rather than feeling the difference only when i'm mashing on the gas pedal. (don't say i didn't warn you heheh ) j/k

go call around the salvage yards and you'll find very decent prices for the older b18 in good conditon...(i've called my self and there are more out there than it seems)

good luck in you import goals. HTH and maybe we can meet up sometime and just chat about cars(.....man i wish you had IM so that we could talk, rather than everyone reading this over and over)hehhe
peace bro.

 

like the other said, do a search. there is plenty of b18, b20 info here.

plus all the name calling and flaming isn't necessary at all. **** like this will not be allowed!!!