ok did some more searching for a quiet muffler and from what people have said I guess the dynomax oval is supposed to be quiet
went on a site to price them out....what length muffler do I want for a 98 civic? what difference does the length make?

 

the longer the quieter and the heavier.

 

are you getting their Super Turbo or the Ultra-Flo? because the Ultra-Flo will be loud since it's straight-through. The Super Turbo is the quiet one, but it's made out of aluminumized materials. My old Super Turbo rusted in a year in a wimpy NorCal winter.

 

I was thinking about the super turbo because it is quieter...
I have a POS muffler now and it is way too loud...I hate it so I want to go as quiet as I can and just put on a low cost replacement...so the dynomax seems to work for me

 

Jeg's has a "kit" for hatches, not sure about the year, for 92 bucks.
Super Turbo version, and it's quiet.
Ah, quiet....finally.

 

you dont need a tip for the dynomax oval muffler do you?>

 

Came with a stainless 3 1/2 inch tip.

 

hey thanks again for the info

last thing do these really sound that quiet>

 

They are pretty quiet. But I went from no muffler to this.
It is definately quieter than most. Not stock quiet, but
not even close to loud.

 

The super flo has a serpentine flow pattern not good for perf though. Get the SS. Still has a lot of dampening material since it is a big oval straight through muffler.