Newest Block Picts.





If you have any questions, please feel free to call Mattj (Dropspeed) or myself.


Thanks,

 

Hey Tom, what sleeves are used in your blocks??

 

Looks sweet!

 

How does the cooling of the block stack up to a stock open deck design?

If this a good block for street use?

Also, a price with sleeves would be awesome.

 

are the higher deck height blocks ready yet??? or is it just the .550??

 

Just how much higher are they going with the height? I'd also like to know how much stroke can you put in one?

 

The blocks have Darton ductile iron sleeves

As far as cooling:

Stock Honda blocks have an open deck design because it is easier/more cost effective to manufacture, not for cooling. However the Dart/Payn block has larger water jackets for cooling

The standard deck height 81.5mm bore blocks have been shipping for a couple of weeks filling backorders, the 84.5mm standard deck and tall deck will be shipping just after the first of the year.

Mattj

 

Awsome Matt. Thanks, but what's the price?

 

WOW, that looks really good. I will probilly look foward to getting my block sleeved soon too. I only have to drop mine of cause im a local

 

Sorry Selling for $1995.00 through Payn Technologies http://www.payntechnologies.com or (248) 362-0283

Mattj

 

This is not a sleeved block, (but Payn can have that done also) It is a brand new casting from Dart. All of the info can be found here.

http://www.dartheads.com/blhonda.htm

Mattj

 

Wow, $2,000 for a sleeved block.
You should sell them like hot-cakes.

Onoe more question.

What is needed to complete this block?

I can see:
Crank (Can you use stock b-series crank?)
Pistons (Any 81.5mm bore b-series piston?)
Rods (normal rods? what specs? b18c rods?)
Barings
Oil Pan & Gasket (Can you use stock?)
What else would you need to get this block running?

Sorry for all the questions.

 

lets ask some serious questions
-oil squirters?
-girdle?
-the webbing doesn't look nearly as beefy as the newer gen b blocks
we want all the facts

 

My questions aren't serious.

 

Hey, how heavy are these blocks compared to stock?

Just wondering.

 

 

do you really need oil squirters when using forged pistons?

i was under the assumption the reason they were there is because the stock pistons are cast...

anyone (eg. payntech)?

 

wow.

These blocks sounds REAL nice now.

definitely worth $2000.

 

You can use all stock parts to complete the build if you want to. Any B18/B20 rods will work as well as any 81.5mm+ pistons, the block can be bored and honed to accept larger pistons IE: 82 83 84 85. You will need to run a non-B18c windage tray and oil pump pick-up.

The other items needed to complete the short block that aren't on your list are: Oil squirters, oil pump, timming belt tensioner, waterpump and timing belt, all sourced from a GSR or Type R.


From RPM9100:
"lets ask some serious questions
-oil squirters?
-girdle?
-the webbing doesn't look nearly as beefy as the newer gen b blocks
we want all the facts "

The girdle is not needed unless you are producing large HP #s 1000hp or 40-50 lbs of boost on alcohol. We can supply a Z-10 LS/B20 girdle at the customers request.

The block is made form 355 T6 virgin alloy, the material alone is 4x stronger than the material Honda uses on the stock block. The main caps are not only dowled like the stock block but also side registered.

Oil squirters are sourced from a GSR or ITR, because they are slighlty offset unlike the B16a

Matt Jensen
(AKA Dropspeed)


[Modified by Payntech, 9:24 AM 12/24/2002]


[Modified by Payntech, 11:57 AM 12/26/2002]

 

actually, like he said before you commented, it's $2k for a BRAND NEW CASTING.....meaning it's brand new (and from what i gather a much stronger material than any stock honda block).

 

yeah, I know.

 

nice man...I remember seeing the first mark up at the show last year. You guys have really out done your selves. Put me down for one...Cincy Speed.

 

Hey Tom, This is Alan's friend, Jody.

Where's mine? j/p

Looks great! I can't wait to hear the dragstrip war stories on this one... seems like every new part goes through hell the first year or two. This person swearing it's gods gift to Honda-Kind, this person swearing that their stock block is stronger <YEAH, whatever>. I can't wait til I can afford to wrap my grubby little hands around one in my little hatchie.

Thanks for all the hard work and insight you've brought to the industry!

 

that thing is beautiful

 

Looks sweet man...im working on boosting a stock motor for now and want to build up a bottem end on the side...

- Is this any limited time production or do you plan on continuing to produce this block?

- Also will price stay the same or is this a special offer?

Thanks,
Chris