Dont know if you guys seen this already or not, but looks like a decent track.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=361869


[Modified by GONG SHOW, 2:56 PM 12/20/2002]

 

heh?

 

forgot the link, but its there now y0...

 

looks fun

 

Funny enough, my Father is getting remarried and is moving from Atlanta to his new Wifes house in Birmingham, I also have other family there... Not that Birmingham is a vacation hot spot or anything.

But, if we decided to go there I'd have a place for myself and a few friends to stay.

Nice looking course shot from the air, does anybody know more about it?

A.

 

yeah, my parents live about 3 0r 4 hours from birmingham. Might have to check there calendar and see what events they have a take a few extra days off when I go and visit my parents.

Thats all the info I seen about it in the road race forum.

 

Anton - so when are you coming down to the dirty South?

 

I am actually going to my Fathers wedding in March but, it will be a whirlwind tour, flying down in the morning and back the next morning, since I have to work the day before and the day after.

I have spent many a summer in Atlanta with family, we are all Yankees though, everyone relocated in there mid 80's when that city was just starting to boom.

The last ime I drove down with an R was 2 years ago when I still had the PY. We drove from Hartfort CT to Miami and stopped to see family and friends along the way in TN, GA, FL, and AL... It was quite a trip and while I actually enjoyed it my wife was ready to jump out and go rent a caddie for the rest of the trip.

I did fly down for a funeral last March and drove back with my almost new Altima, 14 hrs straight from Atlanta to Westchester, NY.

I'd love to make it down there again, maybe to Road Atlanta or Sebring but, I'd want to tow my car then. Rodney and I are planning to take an evolution school this coming February in Virginia, depending on the weather, we'll see what happens...

's all around to you Southern boys, your hospitality is Always appreciated, I hope to see you all and look forward to meeting many of you at the Expo.


Enjoy the warmth, even if you guys think 50 degrees is frigid.


Anton

 

My prediction is that there will be no more Type-R's in 2004..... all stolen/or crashed

 

Thats only if the stunnas get ahold of them.

Wasnt there talk about 2004 expo being down in the dirty south? Or is it going straight back to the West coast? I just threw this out there in case there was plans for the south next year(I know kinda early)

 

I would have to agree with this...

Yeah, I had a feeling of this.

 

*cough* One day event @ Road America *cough*

 

*cough* too expensive *cough* (even for a one day, weekday event)

 

Here are my thougts.

1) I think the west coast guys desrve to have the "official Expo" back for 2004.

BUT, I do have some connections to people who can get that track and I would be happy to do a "side Expo" maybe East Coast Expo or whatever for 2004. We would need to coordinate with the West coast guys as not to put them too close together but I bet we could have both.

It woudl be a matter officially sanctioning one Expo and then noting other Mini Expo events.

Now IS a good time to plan it though.

 

*cough* too much concrete *cough*

 

What?! Concrete, asphalt, I could care less what it's paved with. Sebring is concrete as far as I know but that's obviously out of the question due to distance. I'll said it once and say it again, I'll drive and spend a week anywhere in the US for an Expo.

 

Concrete as in walls to hit if you go off....

 

Exactly. At an ITR Expo, there are a lot of novices on the track, and it's a good idea to have it at a track where there's lots of decent runoff room. Tracks that are big spectator venues, like Road America, feature lots of concrete barriers to keep the cars from driving off into the crowds. They're designed to protect the spectators, unlike "club tracks" which are designed to protect the cars and drivers as well.

If you're interested in driving Road America, there are clubs that hold HPDE events there, such as BMW CCA (Windy City Chapter in May, Badger Bimmers in October), PCA, etc. These events are not too hard to get into; because the track is so long (4 miles), they can put a lot of cars out in a run group without running into traffic problems, so they can let a lot of cars sign up.



[Modified by nsxtcjr, 10:26 AM 12/21/2002]

 

Realized now thanks to Ed. The increased fencing and barriers in the past 10-15 years, have really improved safety I'm sure. My Dad went to a national Alfa Romeo owners meet back in the mid-80s there and we came back in 2001 and he was amazed by the addition of barriers and chainlink.

I just think some increased awareness (maybe an hour or two of classroom session) and enforcement could reduce the risk of accidents even with our ITRs. The two biggest problem areas I see at RA is turn 1 and 5 which IMO have plenty of runoff for our cars. I'll stop wasting my breath anyway.... RA wont see an ITR Expo.

Ken, did any problems arise at the NSXPO in 2001?

 

There was only one, minor slow-speed single-car incident during the two-day event. A driver "pinched" the exit (forced the car along the inside curbing past the apex, rather than letting it track out smoothly to the outside edge) of Canada Corner, and was going perhaps 10-15 mph at the time that he hit the concrete barrier.

The track management told us that this was the safest run event they had seen at the track in a long, long time.

 

R owners are too we-todd-id for a smooth running event? I can't talk... I only have one HDPE under my belt, but just want to hit RA sometime soon.

 

I hope not. I hope the ITR Expo gets the same kind of feedback from the track management.

Remember too that this was the fifth NSXPO, so the folks running it have a lot of previous experience at doing this. And the sixth time, NSXPO 2002, was the first one that didn't have any incidents - which is what we're all shooting for.

What it takes is the right attitude by the organizers and by the participants. No one wants to go home with a bent up car, but it's easy to forget that when you're trying to catch that car up ahead of you, and you are not thinking about how you might be right on the edge of controlling your car. That's when it's up to you, the driver, to be aware of how you're driving and to remember that the most important thing of all is not who is the fastest, but who brings his car back home without incident. And I'm sure that Trey and his team will be reinforcing this at the drivers meeting, and the instructors will in the passenger seat.

I would suggest you drive a few more events at easier tracks (e.g. GingerMan, Putnam, and the ITR Expo at BeaveRun) before you tackle RA. Not only because RA is less safe, but it's also quite difficult to learn, because it's so darn long. Four miles, so a lap takes twice as long as most other tracks. As you go through a turn, you make a mental note about where it goes and how you'd like to take it, but by the time you go all the way around and see it again, that turn is long forgotten.



[Modified by nsxtcjr, 3:42 PM 12/21/2002]

 

I totally agree about learning at a smaller track. Gingerman took me about 4 sessions just to remember each turn, what to do (apexing it semi-correctly) at each turn and remember braking points, and it's only a 1.88 mile track.

Happy Holidays and see you in PA.

 

Well what about setting up some kinda Honda-Tech expo for this track and a ITR Expo back out in cali? One early spring/summer and HT meet/expo late summer early fall... Im sure there would be enough people showing intrest for a HT expo, if not I guess it would be another mini ITR expo

 

expo 4.....LAGUNA SECA