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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 08:30 PM
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2.3 miles of virgin asphalt.

First race is an SCCA SARRC race scheduled for March. I am so there.
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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 08:33 PM
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mmmmm
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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 09:36 PM
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Scott, you're going to love this track. Not as fast as Road Atlanta, but lots of blind turns and some very interesting elevation changes. The asphalt is the same as what they used in Washington DC for the road course. Most importantly, no concrete walls. Of course there's also the interesting sculptures as well.





There's already a Grand Am race scheduled for May and the AMA Superbike finals as well.

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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 09:53 PM
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Hmmm look at those huge rock/bolders
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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 10:08 PM
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Hmmm look at those huge rock/bolders
I have yet to see a track that can claim that there is nothing hard to run into. The real question is "are the big rocks in a place where they'll likely get hit alot?"

If you're scared of a few big rocks stay away from Road Atlanta and Watkins Glen. It's hard to go off at either of those places without hitting something does doesn't move too far.
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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 10:34 PM
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That track looks nice... any chance for NASA to hit it up in 04??

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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 11:20 PM
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Would be great, if I lived in alabammy... Does look good, have fun guys...
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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 11:23 PM
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Would be great, if I lived in alabammy... Does look good, have fun guys...
Now you know exactly how I feel about BeaveRun and Shenandoah .
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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 11:25 PM
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yea, another track an hour from my house at summit, and the other is 3 hours, I can handle that... now, if dragon's ridge would just happen..
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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 06:27 AM
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While I can't speak to what NASA is doing, I can say, without giving exact numbers, that this track is probably the most expensive track in the entire Southeast area.
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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 06:34 AM
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Is that turn at the top of the photo one continuous sweeper , or does is flatten out somewhere behind those trees?
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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 06:44 AM
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While I can't speak to what NASA is doing, I can say, without giving exact numbers, that this track is probably the most expensive track in the entire Southeast area.
Expensive to build or expensive to drive. Er, or both?
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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 08:04 AM
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Expensive to rent. With the Porsche Driving School moving from Sebring and Road Atlanta to the track, the owner decided on a very high daily rate that is the same 7 days a week.

The owner has spared no expense in the building of the track. I think original estimates were around 30 million to build the place, but I've heard that he might have doubled that number. He's putting in FIA track lighting, FIA curbing, sprinkler system for the grass, and a full video system so from race control they can follow a car around the track. Even the tire walls being put in are made from NEW tires. What's really nice is that you can see a car pass in front of race control 4 times on a single lap.

Here's another aerial shot of the track.





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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 08:10 AM
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Is that turn at the top of the photo one continuous sweeper , or does is flatten out somewhere behind those trees?
The photo doesn't do it justice, but it's an uphill turn with a blind crest that goes back down hill a bit before going towards the pit entrance. What's also interesting is the mini corkscrew that is on the other side of the track.
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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 08:14 AM
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what does it cost to rent that track?

RJ - whos thinking it would take a long time to generate enough revenue to recoup the investment unless really big events are being run there
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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 08:52 AM
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Even the tire walls being put in are made from NEW tires.
Most are. Defective, 2nds, or other tires that arent up to snuff to sell.
Now if they bought thousands of brand new off the shelf tires then thats not "sparing no expense" thats being retarded.

anyway, that track looks fun!!


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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 08:58 AM
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Now you know exactly how I feel about BeaveRun and Shenandoah .
and I feel about CMP! 11 1/2 hour tow is not fun, but since it's the first race of the season, I usually have enough race withdrawl that I'm willing to do it.

Hey Corey, don't forget about Rausch Creek's north course which should be opening up in 2003! That's only about 45 minutes from Carlisle. Hopefully Liberty Bell Motorsports Park and/or Alpine Motorsports will happen!


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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 09:00 AM
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Now, the brake engineer in me sees what appears to be 5 hard braking points in 2.3 miles (kinda like, say, CMP??). Versus something like VIR with ~3 hard braking places (2 of which are UPhill) in 3+miles. I see a course hard on equiptment.

Looks fun though. And I'm 3 hours closer than I used to be.


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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 09:36 AM
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Looks like a lot of fun... so when are we going to hear some numbers on how much track costs?
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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 09:37 AM
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Awesome...only 2.5hours away from me...and something new to visit besides RA...i cant wait for the races to begin.
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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 10:59 AM
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I've also been looking forward to this track opening. it's closer to Atl than cmp or roebling and looks more forgiving than road atlanta.

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Old Dec 20, 2002 | 11:24 AM
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Looks like a great track, I will have to run it somehow someday, I used to be a lot closer to more tracks when I lived in Alabama and went to Auburn(miss those days) not too long ago, went to many of the Southeastern tracks in the neighboring states, now that I am in FL it takes longer to get to them, but still not too bad, later
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Old Dec 20, 2002 | 02:55 PM
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where's the i'd drive it picture or the i'd hit it
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Old Dec 20, 2002 | 04:20 PM
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Some more pictures from when we visited the track. These really show the elevation changes at the track.

Turn 2.


The mini-corkscrew.


More pictures at http://www.alscca.org/pictures/barber/index.shtml





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Old Dec 20, 2002 | 04:43 PM
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I am so all over that shizzle.
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