ls/vtec turbo w/obd-0 (management choices)

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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 03:32 PM
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Default ls/vtec turbo w/obd-0 (management choices)

i need some opinions on which management choices i have for a turbocharged ls/vtec w/obd-o. i know the new hondata only cater's to obd-1 same w/aem ems. without going to something as drastic as haltech/accel dfi etc... or race specific stand-alone. what else can i use? am i limited to zdyne? i am also thinking maybe sds? anyhelp would be cool, thanks

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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 06:12 PM
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Hondata works for OBD-0.
PW0 and PR3.

You just use the 'old' stuff, stage 2,3,4. All the same 'features' of the
current s200 just not as polished.

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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 06:53 PM
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Why not use the Z-dyne ?, I have put it on many cars, supercharged and turbo ( Inc my own) and it has been great. The tunes that come with it are so close you will be up and running in 5 mins!
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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 08:31 PM
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does both the early hondata's and the zdyne require both o2 sensors and the knock sensor? thanks for the help guys!
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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 09:41 PM
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You can disable the knock sensor in an ECU by wiring a 1K resistor to ground on the knock sensor input wire.
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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 11:31 PM
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Zdyne's only need one 02 sensor. Not sure about the Hondata.
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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 05:38 AM
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I'm going to do an Autronic unit in my CRX.
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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 06:13 AM
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Hondata needs what the stock ECU needs...
It is not a different ecu it IS your stock ecu with a 'new' chip.

But you can dis-able the O2 sensors and run open loop if you need.


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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 07:11 AM
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If I were you I'd go full standalone. I'm currently using the DTA unit. Wiring wouldn't be that hard to do and the price is very reasonable. I can get a unit for about $1300 CDN.
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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 08:05 AM
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How much hp you shooting for?
What about the hack if you are shooting for 300 or less hp?
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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 10:14 AM
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Zdyne's only need one 02 sensor.
You don't HAVE to disable it, right?
What's the advantage?
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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 11:05 AM
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You don't HAVE to disable it, right?
What's the advantage?
TIA
Just like the 88-91 d-series computers, it only uses one O2 sensor for open-loop control. You only have to use one O2 sensor, but in the Zdyne you can disable the open-loop. Diasbling the o2 sensors function allows you to run off the maps in the ECU instead of relying on the o2 sensors input.
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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 11:10 AM
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so to run one of the older hondata obd-0 programs...what exactly do you need, one of those two ecu's listed....and what else?
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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 04:07 PM
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If I were you I'd go full standalone. I'm currently using the DTA unit. Wiring wouldn't be that hard to do and the price is very reasonable. I can get a unit for about $1300 CDN.
where would i find the dta unit? how bout hooking a fellow canadian up

i'm shooting for the 300-350hp range, i was thinking of the hack, but i was also interested in the smc, but i still have the hurdle of the 2nd o2 sensor and the knock sensor to get over with the pr3 ecu.
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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 08:00 PM
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i just wanted to move this up to get some more input
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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 02:36 PM
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so to run one of the older hondata obd-0 programs...what exactly do you need, one of those two ecu's listed....and what else?
and a GM 3 bar map sensor if you want to run more than 10-11 psi.

That's it !!!

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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 03:14 PM
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i have a d16a6....do those ecu's plug right in?
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