what motor does everyone think would be faster in my hatch, B16B Civic Type-r or a JDM B18C1 Gsr ? any answers or comments would be appreciated. Thanks everyone

 

A built CRVTEC would somke em both.
But the The B18C1 would prolly win.

Blaze

 

Yeah im planning on a CrVtec or Gsr but we really wanted to know cause i know the Civic Type-R has 185hp but less Tq than the Gsr

 

Horse power is nice, but torque wins races.

 

CRvtec


[Modified by Replica667, 6:35 AM 12/7/2002]

 

 

Do the GSR. You'll save lots of $ and probably be better off. By the way I'm on LI too Wanna trade those SHU-4's for some swirlies? Haha ;]

Goldfingiz

 

The GSR might get the better launch, but from a roll with a proper driver the B16B will let you accelerate faster.

 

Pretty close if you ask me. CTR has LSD too. I think the GSR's over there have LSD on some tranny's...

But, the CTR probably has much better acceleration at high rpm's. It'd be a really close race - that's my guess.

 

Haaaaaaa, I sold my swirlies inn Oct, if your serious my friend has a set of the Shu-4's in silver with a polished lip that he just bought laast month but he's thinking about selling his car, so he might be interestead in a trade plus cash

 

ctr is a good motor if you are going roadracing. Gsr's are better for 1/4 miles

 

just get an ls for cheap with low miles and turbo.

 

I agree, but with a little twist. Torque is the twisting force at that instant where as horsepower is the total force respective to the engine speed. Horsepower is a function of torque. It's a unit created to better describe the total torque.

What I'm trying to say is you can't just look at couple of numbers and decide which one's faster, but a dyno graph where you could look at total area underneath the curve should be able to tell you who should theoretically win.

If 2 motors are completely stock, not even bolt-ons, as in factory trim outputing the factory numbers. I think it'll be a really close race.

Jay Kim

 

I like the B16B cuz i like the engine badge but that's it... Send the block out to GE have them sleeve it up to 85mm... Once you get it back drop the GSR/ITR crank and rods into it with some high compression slugs, disassemble the head and send it out to Portflow... Even with CTR cams it should make some pretty good power... Get some injectors and hondata for it and you'll be set... CRVTEC's are cool too but i would rather just have the B18C block sleeved up... Many of you have probably heard of my friend's CRVTEC/EK running a 12.62@107 all motor full interior... Basically what it is, is that CTR head (except ported by Portflow) put ontop of a CRV block bored .50mm over on stock sleeves with stock rods and ARP rod bolts... It's got RC 310's and an ITR ECU w/ VAFC... Here's my other friend's Integra... I kinda talk about it in this post if you get bored and wanna read it... Over the EK's motor it has SK2 stage 2 cams and runs Hondata.. here's the link https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=346093

 

the gsr has 7 less hp but i think like more than 10 lbs. of torque, and the gsr is a grand cheaper than the Civic Tyep-R, with that money you can make it faster than the B16b....GSR is $2,700 at http://www.osakajdmmotors.com/engines/index.html while the B16b is $3,700

 

depends... with the same tranny attached to both motors at the time of their testing?
Or like an ITR shgort geared tranny on the CTR would make the CTR my choice....

but as everyone stated.. 2.0 liter R buildup is best. TORQUE