Ok my g/f has a 00 Si w/ the B16 of course that has just over 36k on it. she took it today to get state inspected and the place told her that she needs new plugs and they recommend a fuel filter. Both of these are not a big deal and i would change both, but i just want to make sure that the place she took it to just wasnt trying to get the extra loot outta her. if the plugs should be replaced, which ones should we get? should we get new wires also?

and the most important question that i have. how long does this 5 posts a day **** last. its killing me. is there a way to turn it off, am i doing something wrong, or do i just have to wait a while? someone hook a brotha up!!!

 

Check in your shop manual for the service interval of these items. Plugs, wires, cap, and rotor are every 15,000 miles, and the fuel filter is every 30,000 miles. When was the last time the plugs and filter were changed?


Whatever is listed in your owners manual. NGK brand is best.

See above.

You have to promise your first born to Dustin or Art. No, you just have to wait 20 days and not have any percentage taken away (meaning- don't be a 'tard). Then you'll be able to post in Members and Classifieds, you'll become a HT Member, you'll be able to change your avatar, will be able to use IMs, and will be able to postwhore to your hearts content.

Consider yourself hooked up, y0.

 

The place IS trying to get more cash out of her.
Uh, according to Honda, you don't have to replace the fuel filter this often. It's also rare that sparkplugs on a daily driven (gently driven) car require this service this soon.

HOWEVER, I recommend doing both of these services NOW. Fuel filters are cheap insurance against crap in the fuel system. Given, this isn't a regularly occuring problem in our Honda world, but it is just good preventative maintainance.

Concerning the sparkplugs, the stock NGK plugs are very good. If you want to replace them, get the NGK replacements. I've tried other plugs, and frankly the aftermarket ones aren't much better even if they are much more expensive.

Concerning the wires - not necessary to change this early. Honda plug wires last a long time. Inspect them regularly, and replace when needed.

Shawn

 

Hey man, where is bridgeport, I am from pittsburgh and my parents live over in reading.

 

You probably should have changed the plugs around 30,000 miles; so in that case, it is probably a good idea to go ahead and change them out. A fuel filter is only $15-20 so that is not a big deal. While you are at it, you should check out the dist. cap/rotor, it is only another $40. As far as wires, you probably won't need them, not unless you are noticing cracks/burn marks on them, or the car seems to be having ignition problems.

It is always a good idea to keep up on the general maintenance items such as plugs, cap/rotor, oil, fuel filter, etc.; it will help out both the longevity and the performance of the engine.

As far as your trial period, I think it last about a week or so. PLEASE DON'T QUOTE ME ON THAT!

*I AM A F-ING SLOW *** TYPER, THERE WERE NO REPLIES WHEN I STARTED TYPING*

Good luck with the maintenance items, and welcome to HT!


[Modified by 93SSPHatch, 5:31 PM 11/30/2002]

 

Uh, this is utter bullshit unless you are stating this as your personal opinion.

The Helms lists the "Severe Service Recommendation" for replacing sparkplugs for the B16A2 at 105,000 miles, or 84 months.

Fuel filter, plug wires, cap, and rotor have no recommendation - at all.

Shawn

 

Everything sounds covered, you might want to get an air filter, enjoy K&N.

 

the shop was trying to get more money out of your girl.....shawn is right....but i personally replace my plugs every 10k or so....fuel filter i have never changed....plug wires....same thing...never changed....most of my driving is at WOT and that is why i replace the spark plugs soo often...

 

Uh, call Honda and lemmie know what they tell you. Do I replace them that often? No. I find I go through plugs every 10K, but that's just my turbo talking. Should you? Depends. 105K plug changes for severe service is "utter bullshit," to use your term. Racing is severe service, right? I'm sure anyone who races keeps their plugs around that long. But hey, who really gives a ****, ya know? He asked, I told. You disagree, I disagree. Let him make up his mind.

 

Do I have to scan the page out of the ******* service manual to illustrate the point? I guess you think I pulled 105K out of my ***? Honda Civic, 1996-2000 service manual, pages 4-22 through 4-23 (Honda publication purchased through Helms). THERE IS NO MENTION OF PLUG WIRES, CAP, OR ROTOR.

Look, if you'd READ what I said above, in my opinion, I recommend these services SOONER. However, since I appear to have to spell this out in big blue crayon, THIS IS MY OPINION. Honda's recommendations, on the other hand, contradict what you have said is the recommendation. This is your opinion, but you have stated it above as FACT and have given it the aura of factory recommendations. This is not the case, and should be stated as such.

Shawn

 

settle the **** down jack ***........

it doesnt hurt at all to at least check the rotors, dizzy, wires, and fluid levels every once and a while

 

Whoa, guys, simple misunderstanding. This guys problem is taken care of, the issue of official maintainance schedule is cleared up, all is well at H-T...take a deep breath.

 

I prefer yellow because it's faster.

I'm going to drop this for two reasons- I'm not going to get my panties in a bunch about the service interval on some $20 parts. Truth be told, you can run a car for 200,000+ miles on the original parts in question. The second reason is I feel I'm being baited into a flame war. If you want, I'll flame you so hard your ******* mom will have singed eyebrows. While you sit there and post behind the Helms manual and think you know everything because you have a race car in your avatar, I pull EVERYTHING I post from memory. Sometimes I screw up. Don't be a ******** about it.

*edit- and while I'm at it... you and I both know you wouldn't talk to me in that manner if I were standing in the same room as you, so drop the ******* attitude and treat me with the same respect I'm extending to you.


[Modified by House of Boost, 2:25 AM 12/1/2002]

 

Sorry, bro, but I HAVE to replace my plugs about every 20K. If I don't, it'll start running on 3 cylinders a few 1000 miles later and triggers a CEL, blah, blah, blah.

I've been trying alternatives to the NGK's lately. I tried some Bosch Plats, and they sucked; didn't foul but generally drove sh!tty, just as I figured they would. I'm trying Champion Copper Plus plugs now. They drive well. We'll see how long they last.

Anyway, plugs are cheap, so there's no reason to have a cow over it...

 

No.

This sort of bullshit misinformation needs to stop:

This ISN'T Honda's recommendation, and I can prove it. If being correct and pointing it out is being a jack ***, then a jack *** I am, and thank you for pointing it out. I am right about this, and that's the way it is.

With the exception of whatever a "dizzy" is, I agree. I think that Honda's recommendations fall short. However, if we feel that spewing whatever crap WE THINK is a good idea and misrepresenting that as Honda's official recommendation, then we're all full of **** and bald faced liars.

I'm not going to settle down. This is an argument about truth and principles, and if you don't have that, you don't have anything.

Shawn

 

The thing that pisses me off the most are those people who do not use the proper terminology when it comes to car parts.

 

Uh, right. This must be the oh-so-stated *respect* you refer to below.

Well, it's my racecar (well, occassional track driven daily driver), and yes, I do BACK UP WHAT I SAY WHEN I CHALLENGE SOMEONE. When I said that the recommendation that you said was bullshit should have been a clue that I had my Helms to my left.

You still haven't admitted you were wrong, and I don't think you believe you are yet. Honda's official opinion on the matter is fact. And I can back it up.

Refer to above noted item of respect. And, "Uh, call Honda and lemmie know what they tell you" is a call out if I ever heard one. If you can't handle the response, tough. I am extending EXACTLY the same respect you are extending me, seeing as you would be showing me NONE.

Shawn


[Modified by shawnhayes, 9:52 PM 11/30/2002]

 

From Majestic Honda's Website:

 

Understood, BDC, and so do I. However, the original question was about a 2000 Si driven by a girl. The factory recommendations MAY be sufficient. I change mine more often as well, and I recommend that others do as well. However, misrepresenting our opinion as Honda's recommendations makes us all look bad.

I had some Bosh 4's that did well at one time, but I'm back to OEM NGK's right now.

You know exactly what cow I'm having. I'm a stickler about accuracy and truth. (well, of course, "truth" as we can best define it at this point). We're all occassionally wrong, it's how we handle when we're wrong that makes the difference in character.

Shawn

 

Exactly. The B16A2 has the NGK PFR6L-13 as it's plug, and is listed to be changed every 105,000 miles by Honda.

I wouldn't DREAM of letting my plugs last that long, but I don't know if a girl driven Si requires plugs at 36,000.

Shawn