i got 350 front springs, and it seems like they are too soft. i have the adjustment perch screwed all the way into the spring and i cannot raise it anymore becasue sring tension, and when i lower the car into the ground the wheel sinks up into the wheelwell. the only thing i can think to do is get some higher rate springs for the front, but i dont know why i would have this problem with 350 lb rate springs. alot of other people are using this same springs and not ahving any problems. a i missing something or did they supply me with the wrong spring?
90 SI with b16+koni yellow


[Modified by johnzm, 4:41 PM 11/28/2002]

 

It would help to know what length spring you have. From my experience with 92-00 civics it should be an 8" spring up front.

Nash

 

Since you have Koni yellows, what perch is the treaded sleeve sitting on? What length spings do you have?

 

lemme go measure these puppies.

the thingie on the yellow is in the middle. like there are 5 places to put it and i have it on the middle/3rd one.

 

the # on the sring is 180.64.61
ill brb with measurements. and chekc this the adjustment perch starts tensioning the spring as soon as it hits halfway on the threaded area.,

 

the spring is right around 7 inches long i think the front spring is too soft or something

 

btw, how did you specifically ask for 350# springs? the number you gave is just the vehicle specific kit which does not correlate to a custom rate. but, CRX/Civic springs are 350f/275r anyway, just fyi.

as for why the car doesnt raise any higher, just raise the shock perch up of the koni. i see no reason with 7-8" springs you cannot get a good ride height if you assembled it right. it has nothing to do with how soft the springs are.


[Modified by Tyson, 11:22 AM 11/28/2002]

 

the spring contacts the perch , and then i can only turn it like 1/4 inch higher, because of the spring tension. if i mess with the sleeve height onb the koni itll do the same thing, the perch will just hit the spring on a different spot on the sleeve, but itll still be the same height. when i lower the car down , i can see the spring eat up ~2 or 3 inches of wheel movement.
and tahts with the perch turned up so high that i cannot turn it any higher, becasue im not strong enough

[Modified by johnzm, 7:46 PM 11/28/2002]


[Modified by johnzm, 7:47 PM 11/28/2002]


[Modified by johnzm, 7:47 PM 11/28/2002]

 

oh, i see what youre trying to say. you cant raise the adjustable perch because the spring is pushing down making it hard to rotate the perch, even when the wheel is up.

well, here's a trick i use. get a beefy screwdriver or a stiff ratchet. insert it into the coils so the tip of the screwdriver rests on top of the sleeve. then, push up on the handle of the screwdriver, prying the spring up just enough so you can rotate the perch. youll have to reposition the screwdriver every few twists.

the other way you can do it is make sure the car is on jackstands, and then support the suspension underneath with a jack and raise the suspension to compress the spring just a bit. then remove the top shock nut while it is assembled in the control arms. then carefully and slowly lower the suspension with the supporting jack. now the spring should be completely uncompressed and you can freely adjust the lower perch. then jack up the suspension again so the shock rod can be tightened again to the top hat. this way you dont need a spring compressor.

 

i was not expceting to g through so much trouble wit this setup. the perch is haflway on the sleeve, and i think the suspension is on the bump stops.
i jacked up the car, took the wheel off, and put a jack under the rotor and jacked it up, and it easily compesses the spring up really far. can anyone tell me what this springrate is? i think its way too soft!

 

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