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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 01:45 PM
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We'll I just pulled out my motor to put in my new one. just stock gsr block with b16 head. Since the head and block are not put together yet, should i add a block guard? What blockguard do you guys recommend?


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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 01:49 PM
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if it is all stock i dont think so, but then again they are only like 100 bux.
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 06:40 PM
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need more opinions please
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 06:50 PM
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Default Re: should i put a block guard? (Turbo_Teg)

Ive heard overheating problems with blockgaurds...and they tend to "bend" (for lack of a better word....im up to now)
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 07:04 PM
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bump. i'd like to know as well.
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 07:11 PM
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Default Re: should i put a block guard? (Turbo_Teg)

A properly installed blockguard that is made to fit will do the trick.

There are far more horror stories about blockguards than there are success stories. People that hammer them in tend to have problems very quickly.

When you hammer in a blockguard, it distorts the sleeves. The only way you can correct for this is to bore and hone the block to get the cylinders perfectly round. People who use them with success either have one that they grind on so that it is an EXACT match to their block or they weld it in and then bore-n-hone.

They are cheap up front, but there is a lot of hidden costs in doing a blockguard properly.

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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 09:09 PM
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Default Re: should i put a block guard? (Sonny)

Do not get a blockguard. Why? well because its a complete waste of money. It does not guard your block...it guards the outer top of your cylinders (useless) and restricts coolant flow between the cylinder head and water jackets.
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 09:27 PM
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Default Re: should i put a block guard? (Sonny)

A properly installed blockguard that is made to fit will do the trick.

There are far more horror stories about blockguards than there are success stories. People that hammer them in tend to have problems very quickly.

When you hammer in a blockguard, it distorts the sleeves. The only way you can correct for this is to bore and hone the block to get the cylinders perfectly round. People who use them with success either have one that they grind on so that it is an EXACT match to their block or they weld it in and then bore-n-hone.

They are cheap up front, but there is a lot of hidden costs in doing a blockguard properly.

Sonny
thanks man, exactly what i wanted to know
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 10:38 AM
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Default Re: should i put a block guard? (Sonny)

There are far more horror stories about blockguards than there are success stories. People that hammer them in tend to have problems very quickly.
I have yet to hear one from somebody first hand though. Besides cooling, and people have drilled extra holes in older blockguards and hadn't had a problem from there.

I've have heard first hand from people who use them and say they work.

Anybody had problems that has acutally used them?

I'm using one. I got it for free though. And I'm not boosted yet. Cooling is fine.


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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 10:50 AM
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mine is still sitting in my closet, maybe i should put it on ebay for like 50 bucks. i never even used the thing.
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 02:11 PM
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Default Re: should i put a block guard? (Ruckus138)

i have a nuformz blockguard for my turbo d16y8 and i've had it for over a year. no cooling problems caused yet. i don't know how much it helps with protecting the block, because i've only boosted to about 9psi. i got stock internals and have overboosted to 14psi a few times, but nothing's happened. didn't hammer it in either...uh not sure what else you want to know...


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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 03:18 PM
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I got one and I run the dogshit out of my car! I haven't had a bit of trouble. I guess I did get the temp gauge to jump a little back in July...but it was really hot and I was holding I think 10psi at around 130mph for a little longer than I should've. I'm sure if done correctly and treated correctly it will perform correctly. Hope this helps.
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 03:54 PM
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one of my buddies uses a str blockguard on his built b18c...its built for turbo but doesnt have a turbo on it yet though but anyways, he hasnt had any cooling problems, everything seems to be working great so far without boost, and hes got over 2000 miles on it.
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 04:03 PM
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Default Re: should i put a block guard? (gritsak)

what brand are you guys using?
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 05:49 PM
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Default Re: should i put a block guard? (Turbo_Teg)

what brand are you guys using?
don't have one yet, but i'm thinking of useing an ARP block gaurd
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 06:05 PM
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im boosting around 9psi right now on a b18b with a built bottom end. i have had no cooling issues with it, it was hammered in and works great as far as im concerned, if you are planning on keeping the pistons and rods stock, then i wouldnt even bother, the rods will break before the cylinder walls will for sure. so if you are spending alot of money on your block, put a block guard in, really, its not going to hurt.
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