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MaXpeedingRods GT3582R "Street" Billet wheel - where to begin.
*Disclaimer: All "Dyno" numbers are obtained via VirtualDyno, using the same settings and a 3rd gear pull from 3,000rpm to revlimit of 9600rpm, not a true dyno. VirtualDyno has been known to be off up to 10% compared to a real dyno, so numbersay not be exact, but are more so to show the increases, not true numbers.*
The MaXpeeding Rods GT3582R, with the balanced Billet Wheel, the street versuon - it outperforms.
We compared the MaXpeedingRods gt3582R street, against the normal Maxpeedingrods GT3582R, the Emusa GT35, and Garret GT35 together, along side our last turbo setup - a sport JDM t04e - and we can't even begin to poi t out the pros vs cons. The turbo looks great, spools great, sounds great (The scream it puts out under cull boost, mysic to our ears.)
When we got this turbo in, we sat it next to a normal Maxpeedingrods gt3582R we had for another build. Side by side, they are visually the same, and dimensionally exactly alike - with the exception of the billet wheel. The Billet wheel stands out more aesthetically, as well as performance wise as we found out once we got to work. Weight wise the billet wheel was just a tad lighter, but not by much.
We pulled the compressor housing off, and were pleasantly surprised it is a true 62mm inducer and 82mm exducer, like a true gt35 as well.
So, we began. We finished putting the motor back together, and strapped it on. Put 500 mikes on the motor to work out kinks, and sent it on a low boost tune - comparable to our old setups on the old motors.
Immediately, we saw major improvements. We saw spool times decrease compared to both the emusa, as well as the garrett - from 5200 on the garrett, and 560p on the emysa - to 4500rpm to reach full boost on the MXR. And, oddly enough, we had similar spool times on the Maxpeedingrods as we did 9n the baby t04e! (Full boost in the low boost tune is 9psi)
Seeing the decrease in spool times, brought in a world of power much sooner. Hitting full boost by 4700rpm max, on average 4509rom, and taming the motor to 9500rpms, we had plenty of pull. The turbo also held 9psi all the way to revlinit and held power the whole way through.
The emusa gave us 447whp on 9psi on a stock b16a block, stick compression, with a fully built head.
The Garret gave us similar results in the same setup, at 492whp on 9psi.
The t04e, we saw 370whp on 9psi on the same setup.
Now, the Maxpeedingrods, we saw 506whp, in 9psi. Granted, we now had a small compression bump, as well as a small bore increase (0.5mm overbore) but to see such a decent i crease on the same boost with minor changes, i wont complain one bit.
That being said, if we were to strap the garret vack one, we would probably see that the garret outperforms the Maxpeedingrods just a hair in its efficiency, and ability to produce power - but not by more than 5whp, which to me, doesnt justify the garret over the MxR - id take the MXR all day over the garret, but i'll get into that a bit more in a second.
After doing our 9psi comparison, we tried to up the boost, and ran out of fuel at 12psi, on e85.. which netted an impressive 563whp, on a 1.6 liter motor!
So - side by side, i must say... The Maxpeedingrods turbo itself, outperformed its competition. Maybe not power wise... But, power per dollar - the Maxpeedingrods is a clear winner. So, lets get to the pros, and cons, of the Maxleedingrods GT3682R "Street".
Pros:
-Price. Now, the Maxpeedingrods is a bit more than the Emusa, but the quality is much better. The emusa, we have had to reppace 4 times in 2 years, and its also less efficient. The MXR us also quite a bit more than the t04e, but again.. the t04e is a great turbo, no complaints, always done us well, but its much smaller, which is why its orice is much different. The Maxpeedingrods vs the garret, its a much cheaper option thats damn near as good.
-Packaging. Its fitment is perfect. T3 flange, 3" 4 bolt exhaust. Extremely versatile packaging.
-Reliability. This tuebo has been 9n for a wgile now, and droven around a lot. It has yet to let me down in any way.
-Spool time. Extremely good spool time, especially for its size.
Cons:
-Not quite as efficient as a Garrett equivalent, though, barely. I hate to even call this a con really.
-4 bolt exhaust. Now, i know i put this as a pro as well, and it is... But its also a con. The 4 bolt flanges tend to leak, regardless of manufacturer. And in my case, meant i had to redo my entire up pipe since i was set up for 3" vband. But in the end, it works well enough.
-lack of oil feed guidelines. It is impossible to find out hat size restrictor you need for this turbo, or if you need one at all, so i just kind of chucked one in and it worked out. But thats an easy enough fix by a simple description update.
Honestly, its really hard to find any cons, as most of the prod outweigh them. And im not just saying that, i kind if came into this expecting worse, and i have been very pleasantly surprised.
So, in my opinion, i would rank them as follows:
#1. MaXpeedingRods GT3582R "Street" (Or. Even the regular version in all honesty) because for its price, you simply cannot beat its performance. It only fell behind the garret barely, at less than half the cost. And its been super reliable.
#2. Garret GT35. Simply because it does make more power and spool a little better. For the price however, is why it gets put into 2nd place.
#3. Sport JDM T04e. This little turbo is a champ. It makes good power for its size, is super affordable, and super reliable. If i was to compare this guy to other similar turbos, im sure it would be in the top 3 minimum. Only reason it ranks lower here is because it cant keep up with the bigger guys.
#4. The Emusa GT35. I wouldnt run this turbo at all personally, we have had nothing but failures from them.
The MaXpeedingRods GT3582R "Street" can be purchased here as well:
SportJDM (Top) vs Maxpeesongrods GT3582R street (Bottom) Bolted up to tne fully built b16a for mock up 61mm 82ish-mm Clearer shot of the cnc wheel Assembled with the cnc billet wheel The test vehicle Fu shot of the test vehicle
So - side by side, i must say... The Maxpeedingrods turbo itself, outperformed its competition. Maybe not power wise... But, power per dollar - the Maxpeedingrods is a clear winner. So, lets get to the pros, and cons, of the Maxleedingrods GT3682R "Street".
Pros:
-Price. Now, the Maxpeedingrods is a bit more than the Emusa, but the quality is much better. The emusa, we have had to reppace 4 times in 2 years, and its also less efficient. The MXR us also quite a bit more than the t04e, but again.. the t04e is a great turbo, no complaints, always done us well, but its much smaller, which is why its orice is much different. The Maxpeedingrods vs the garret, its a much cheaper option thats damn near as good.
Cons:
-Not quite as efficient as a Garrett equivalent, though, barely.
So, in my opinion, i would rank them as follows:
#1. MaXpeedingRods GT3582R "Street" (Or. Even the regular version in all honesty) because for its price, you simply cannot beat its performance. It only fell behind the garret barely, at less than half the cost. And its been super reliable.
#2. Garret GT35. Simply because it does make more power and spool a little better. For the price however, is why it gets put into 2nd place.
That’s what I got from this long post/write up. The Garrett is a little better but the MaxpeedingRods turbo is so much less expensive.
I’m glad the Maxpeeding Rods turbo worked.
That’s what I got from this long post/write up. The Garrett is a little better but the MaxpeedingRods turbo is so much less expensive.
I’m glad the Maxpeeding Rods turbo worked.
Yeah, turn the pressure up, and the little turns into much.
Informative turbo low pressure comparison (Garrett, MaxPeedingRods,Emusa,SportJDM)
