Bought a 2001 Civic EX for my teenager. It was cheap and it had problems. Been working at it and it's getting better. here's the latest and probably most frustrating problem. We put a reman trans in it because the old one was smoked. Great filter design from Honda. Figured while we were in it that far, timing belt, water pump, new valve cover gasket, spark plug tube seals and grommets for the bolts. Put 4 new tires on it and took it for a spin. 23 miles, all good. Got home and was sitting in the driveway, decided to go get dinner. Backed out, started down the street and it went into limp mode. Code for upstream O2 sensor and catalyst performance. Replaced entire exhaust system(converter was already questionable) and both O2 sensors. Cleared codes and went for several more short drives. Kid takes it to an eye Doctor appt, 12 miles, and on the way home it goes into limp mode again. P1361. Replaced both cam and crank sensors, cleared code and several more short trips. No problems. Kid goes to swim meet finals, 55 miles away. No problems. Drives 50 of the 55 miles home, goes into limp mode again. Tow it the rest of the way home. P1362 code. Sits overnight while I'm at the Fire Station. Get home the following morning, start it up, no CEL, no limp mode and runs fine. Drive it several miles to the store and back. Kid has taken it to work several days. Still no CEL, no limp mode. Absolutely stumped. I know at some point he's going to need to drive it greater distances. I'm not ready to strand him somewhere 60 miles or more from the house. Any ideas why the complete randomness of going into limp mode?

 

Maybe an issue with the chassis grounding? One day the electrical sencors are working normal, a bit after its throwing codes.. then its okay again.., maybe a loose grounding point

 

416REXGHOST, that's a very valid point and a very good possibility since we did the transmission and had the entire front end out from under it. Had already considered the wiring side of it but the loose ground hadn't even crossed my mind. Thanks for the input, much appreciated.

 

Anytime bro, save your money

 

Really frustrated. I've been through this thing with a fine tooth comb. Couldn't find any broken wires or loose grounds. Kid goes to work, no problem. Drives to the Fire Station, no problem. Goes to leave, crank but no start. CEL on. P1362. Just replaced the cam sensor. Check wiring, nothing obvious. Check voltages at the plug. Battery voltage good. Signal wire 5 volts. Ground has good continuity. I'll bite. Changed cam sensor again. Fired right up. Sat and idled for 20 minutes, wife drove it several miles and parked it. Drove to the store the next afternoon, no problem. Come out of the store, crank, no start again. No CEL. No codes stored. Starting to suspect my Computer. Frustration level is off the charts.

 

Check this TSB out: 2010-09-17_005142_tsb_1361_and_1362.pdf (justanswer.com)

 

Well, here's a good one for you.....how about a worn out ignition lock cylinder and switch? Had a crank, no start situation. Somebody suggested pushing the key in and wiggling it as I cranked it. It started! Changing out lock cylinder and switch assembly.

 

Still can't understand a P1361 code and a faulty ignition switch though. Hopefully P1361 doesn't come back...

 

A lot of things are powered and routed through wiring within tbe steering column. I don't get the 1361 or 1362 codes either. Why it would single that out vs. something else. Maybe yhose are the ones it picked up on when power was disrupted. Once it was running, the problem randomly popped up and sent it into limp mode. The last time, it ran fine, did NOT go into limp mode and did NOT set a code. It turned into a crank, no start problem. After shaking/pushing the key while cranking, it started 4 times. Just for grins, I changed out just the ignition switch. Back to crank, no start. When I get the new lock cylinder installed, I'll post an update. I ordered Genuine Honda Cam and Crank sensors, before I found the ignition lock cylinder, because I'm certain that I'll eventually need to replace what's in it now.

 

Axle boot is it torn and these Honda Transsmission are pickky with what trasmission fluid you put in them,make sure the car is warmed up 20 minutes take it around the bclock stop on level ground make sure the trans fluid is exactly in the middle of dipshit, Sometimes you have to put an axe to the boot but make sure no foot is in the boot. because that Axle could be popping in and out of the tranny.

 

Ok, told you I'd post an update. Ignition lock cylinder and switch didn't fix the problem. In fact, it went back to crank/no start. I did replace the crank and cam sensors....again.....and guess what? Fired right up. This time did the idle re-learn then took it out for the crank re-learn. During that run, it kicked into limp mode again and the P1361 TDC Sensor noise code set. I want somebody to define what TDC sensor noise actually is. What causes TDC sensor "noise"? I've had a lot of time to think on this and come to a few conclusions. If this was wiring related, it would do it all the time....hot, cold, short or long distance and if you wiggled wires, it should act up. It doesn't. It doesn't do it when it's cold or when it first gets up to normal operating temperature. It starts acting up after it's been at normal operating temperature for several miles. My line of thinking has now gone to a heat soak part failure beginning. Like an ignition coil soaks up the engine heat and when it reaches 185 to 190 degrees, the intermittent fault shows it's face and begins triggering the code. I threw in the towel......I took it to the dealer for the airbag inflator recall and to let them have a go at finding the problem. No word from them yet. We'll see.......

 

Out of curiosity....how did it turn out? Have you got it running right?

 

Was just about to say check your grounds. My 05 civic had the shittiest 16g grounds ever. Replaced with 4g grounds & it worked so much better & easier on engine. Or check ECM, you've put so much work into already that maybe getting a new computer & new immobilizer with matching keys would solve a lot of issues.

 

Did you ever fix the car? What was the problem?