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Old Sep 30, 2020 | 03:18 PM
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OK not sure where to start. Just replaced head gasket drive about 600 miles or so all good. Seems like it's in safe mode. Oil was low maybe that caused it? Won't hardly go past 60 an hard to get to shift out of 3rd just below drive. And when it does it still won't go much over 60 if that.
Tried pulling back up fuse am another that was I thought ecm. I did get service light to go out but still safe mode. Trans has about 60,000 in rebuild. Have not pulled any codes yet. Seen one bid about changing timing but have not tried that yet. Any thoughts what's going on?
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Old Sep 30, 2020 | 04:55 PM
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Check the codes and go from there.

The 96 and up Accords do not have adjustable timing/distributors. The ignition timing is controlled completely by the ECU and ignition control module (ICM/Ignitor). If the timing was off by a tooth on the timing belt, it would be rough throughout the RPM's.
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Old Sep 30, 2020 | 05:59 PM
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Agreed, get the scan of the codes. Limp home mode is very broad. It could be 02 sensors, a/f, who knows. Also look for the leaks, low fluid for no reason doesn't exist. Burning it or losing it somewhere.
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Old Oct 1, 2020 | 02:29 AM
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Will do I'll try an get he codes.
Isn't there a way to get them with out reader?
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Old Oct 1, 2020 | 03:16 PM
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Not sure about the OBDII 2002 Accords. I know you can with the OBDII 96-97 Accords. They have a 2 pin connector located under the glove box that you can perform the piper clip code retrieval method on. I have also seen in passing that you might be able to short 2 of the wires on the OBDII connector to get the CEL to flash. I'd have to google it.
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Old Oct 1, 2020 | 03:57 PM
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For this and other items, you will want a scanner, they are not expensive. $20 for either a scanner or a bluetooth scanner that you can use with your phone. companies like Fixd make them.
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Old Oct 3, 2020 | 11:41 AM
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OK not sure where to start. Just replaced head gasket drive about 600 miles or so all good. Seems like it's in safe mode. Oil was low maybe that caused it? Won't hardly go past 60 an hard to get to shift out of 3rd just below drive. And when it does it still won't go much over 60 if that.
Tried pulling back up fuse am another that was I thought ecm. I did get service light to go out but still safe mode. Trans has about 60,000 in rebuild. Have not pulled any codes yet. Seen one bid about changing timing but have not tried that yet. Any thoughts what's going on?

Not sure where to update try here 1st
Knoxk sensor is one code but I've had it since about when I've replaced the motor an was told the intake an exhaust doesn't match the motor 10 years ago driving since.
Only. Other code was P1167
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Old Oct 3, 2020 | 03:59 PM
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P1167 relate to the Air/Fuel Ratio sensor that applies to the ULEV engine.



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Old Oct 4, 2020 | 04:13 AM
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P1167 relate to the Air/Fuel Ratio sensor that applies to the ULEV engine.


So it's either good or bad I guess? I'll check wires to be sure. Other than that the knock sensor is all an I've had that since motor replacement
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Old Oct 4, 2020 | 09:56 AM
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P1167 is the heater circuit of the sensor. It will usually be due to a faulty A/F ratio sensor, unless there was a short or open (break) in the wiring, or blown driver's side Fuse No. 6.

Unlikely to be blown no. 6 fuse, since if that fuse was blown, you would having issues with many other things like alternator not charging, gauge issues, etc.
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Old Oct 5, 2020 | 02:43 AM
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Thanks
I'm gong to yard this morning to pick up a used one should be fine kep you updated
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Old Oct 5, 2020 | 10:26 AM
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P1167 relate to the Air/Fuel Ratio sensor that applies to the ULEV engine.


Got the used part sensor swapped it out still same error. Should I spray or try to clean these? Next I'll try a new one
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Old Oct 5, 2020 | 06:44 PM
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Just to be sure, did you reset the ECU after you did the sensor swap? Disconnect the negative battery cable (Pull the ECU fuse No.6) for a couple minutes.

Cleaning these sensors will not help with a heater circuit error. Cleaning them is kind of like snake oil.... there really isn't much you can do to clean the actual sensor behind the shield.

As far as the heater circuit goes, if you have replaced the sensor and reset the ECU with no fix. You can troubleshoot the heater circuit and see if maybe there is a short or cut in the wire. That being said, a failed heater circuit wouldn't put your engine in limp mode.


When you hit that wall at 60, where it seems as though it's in limp mode, does your check engine light flash? That would point to an ignition or fuel misfire issue.
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Old Oct 6, 2020 | 02:44 AM
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Just to be sure, did you reset the ECU after you did the sensor swap? Disconnect the negative battery cable (Pull the ECU fuse No.6) for a couple minutes.

Cleaning these sensors will not help with a heater circuit error. Cleaning them is kind of like snake oil.... there really isn't much you can do to clean the actual sensor behind the shield.

As far as the heater circuit goes, if you have replaced the sensor and reset the ECU with no fix. You can troubleshoot the heater circuit and see if maybe there is a short or cut in the wire. That being said, a failed heater circuit wouldn't put your engine in limp mode.


When you hit that wall at 60, where it seems as though it's in limp mode, does your check engine light flash? That would point to an ignition or fuel misfire issue.
Which is ECU fuse? I pulling what I think is it an the cable. Mos I've read say it should say ECU on it but I'm not seeing it? Any help
I'll check an see what it does when trying to pass. It does seem a little better as far a going faster. But not like before yet.
Thanks

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When I floor it like to pass it seems to limit out on RPM's an down shift like shut down? Doesn't go any faster I k ow that's kinda vague
Just down shifts an stalls?

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Old Oct 6, 2020 | 02:11 PM
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P1167 relate to the Air/Fuel Ratio sensor that applies to the ULEV engine.



Do you know how I wold test the 02 sensors to see if they are bad an test the wiring?
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Old Oct 6, 2020 | 02:19 PM
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Not 100% but the 2002 Accord ECU fuse should be No.6 in the drivers side fuse box. Could be labeled Back Up??
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Old Oct 6, 2020 | 02:35 PM
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Not 100% but the 2002 Accord ECU fuse should be No.6 in the drivers side fuse box. Could be labeled Back Up??

Drivers side? OK must be inside door jam. No wonder couldn't find in main nder hood lol thanks
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Old Oct 6, 2020 | 04:32 PM
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Yes sir, open up the driver side door and there is a fuse panel on the side of the dash.
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