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Old Jun 13, 2020 | 02:44 PM
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Default B series LS/VTEC TDC/Timing issue

Motor: B18a1 + PR3 B16
Job: Timing & accesory belts.
Notes: No lower timing cover (no TDC mark, seems to be another one straight on the block under a eagle lookin thing lmao (see photo above crank)), Turning counter clockwise w/o spark plugs, ran reletavely good before dissassembly



So basically first time doing a timing belt (previous owner did the swap) and when I set the crank TDC the two cam marks are opposite of eachother (see photo), when they face up I can't even see the marks on the crank. Am I doing this wrong, is the timing on a LS/VTEC supposed to be like that? Any help would be great, I apologise in advanced if this is the wrong forum for this kind of thing. Also any additional tips/steps on the re-assembly (RTV, threadlocker) would be blessed.
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Old Jun 14, 2020 | 07:47 PM
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Default Re: B series LS/VTEC TDC/Timing issue

wow...that's some serious rust. Anyhow...can you even see the timing degree marks on the crank pulley? Hard to tell by looking at the pics.

Make sure the pulley is at TDC first before aligning the cam gears, not the other way around.
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Old Jun 14, 2020 | 08:04 PM
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Default Re: B series LS/VTEC TDC/Timing issue

Originally Posted by NVturbo
wow...that's some serious rust. Anyhow...can you even see the timing degree marks on the crank pulley? Hard to tell by looking at the pics.

Make sure the pulley is at TDC first before aligning the cam gears, not the other way around.
Tell me about it, Previous owner did some junk *** things all around the car, luckily most of the important stuff is good. ATM its all surface rust, I'll replace them when those funds exist., basically sums up my entire car lmao. Yeah, hard to see in the photo, but assuming the image of an eagle with an arrow under it, that arrow being TDC, then it does align with the single mark on the pulley. The cams position in the first image, with the intake cam gear being 180 degrees off, I just assume the guy who built it was a morom and put it on backwards. Funny enough the marks are almost completely in line with eachother, and after researching on that, apparently some people have done this succesfully but there is no reason for it. So is it safe to assume that even though these marks are not across from eachother that this can still be considered TDC?

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Old Jun 17, 2020 | 02:20 PM
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Update:

Played around with things a little bit more and got everything alligned and tensioned properly, bled coolant, where eything ran pretty okay, except theres a loud low rumble in the cabin (almost as if one of the motor mouynts was bad, but they arent), nothing has skipped, everything checked out before rolling the car out. Contacted mechanic, he suggested re tensioning, so we'll see if that fixes it. Wanted to come here for any more suggestions, will keep posted. Got a video of everything and double checked my timing and timed the distributer, everything lines up, everythings tensioned. Still have the loud noise in the cabin, I have a video where you can kind of hear it, but its a lot louder in person.

video:

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