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PLEASE HELP just got a new daily and it broke down

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Old Sep 3, 2019 | 09:23 PM
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So today I traded my truck for a 2000 Civic ex I test drove the car previously and it seemed like everything was in order. On the way home from the trade, after running and shifting fine and smooth, I all of a sudden noticed I was losing power accelerating on the on ramp. I had to pedal to floor and to speed was dropping. I downshifted to try and get some more *** behind her but still it slowed and I pulled over. I turned the car off and went to start it back up and low and behold. No crank no start. I get it towed home and I'm messing with it. As soon is I get it home and try to turn it on it turns right over but was idling rough and really low and seemed to want to stall. I tried to drive it again and it was sluggish and had no responsiveness until it finally did stall when I stopped to turn around and then wouldn't start again not even a crank. It seems as though it will crank and start if I leave it for a while but it then runs rough and idles low and stalls then won't crank or start again. I was looking into it, thought it may be the ignition switch because I have to jiggle the hell out of the key to even turn it to on then I started thinking ignition control module then I though crankshaft positioning sensor. it seems alot of these could be the issue but I'm having trouble finding a diagnoses that exactly fits the symptoms I'm having and starting to think the issue of the rough idle and intermittent starting May be separate problems. I hope not but I would appreciate any insight anyone has on this
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Old Sep 3, 2019 | 11:29 PM
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Check your main relay to the fuel pump underneath driver side. Looks like a rectangle box. Check the contact points to see if they’re still clean and not burnt looking.
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Old Sep 4, 2019 | 02:40 AM
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u mean passenger side?
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Old Sep 4, 2019 | 04:56 AM
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Check your main relay to the fuel pump underneath driver side. Looks like a rectangle box. Check the contact points to see if they’re still clean and not burnt looking.
I got another one and it didn't change nothing. The check engine light came back on this morning from when I disconnected the battery tho, so I think I'm going to get a code reader and see what she's throwing
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Old Sep 4, 2019 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by tony_2018
u mean passenger side?
Lol I’m use to my 93 civic hatch having it on the driver side
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Old Sep 4, 2019 | 07:00 AM
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I got another one and it didn't change nothing. The check engine light came back on this morning from when I disconnected the battery tho, so I think I'm going to get a code reader and see what she's throwing
I didn’t say buy another one, don’t buy parts to throw at it and expect it to work.

Get us that code and we ll try and help narrow it down what it is.
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Old Sep 4, 2019 | 09:06 AM
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I didn’t say buy another one, don’t buy parts to throw at it and expect it to work.

Get us that code and we ll try and help narrow it down what it is.
The code it threw was a p1359 it's saying online it's the crankshaft position sensor or top dead center sensor but I'm leaning towards crankshaft position sensor. Its the only code it threw though
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Old Sep 4, 2019 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by K20.ek
I didn’t say buy another one, don’t buy parts to throw at it and expect it to work.

Get us that code and we ll try and help narrow it down what it is.
I had already got another one as I thought the main relay may have been the problem, made sure I could return it if it wasn't and I did
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Old Sep 4, 2019 | 12:02 PM
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timing belt...

I take that back, youre probably confusing a crank/no crank situation because you have a 1359 cel. that not keep you from cranking.
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Old Sep 4, 2019 | 12:28 PM
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timing belt...

I take that back, youre probably confusing a crank/no crank situation because you have a 1359 cel. that not keep you from cranking.
I actually looked it up and if it is the crankshaft positioning sensor it said it can cause starting issues or no start at all if it fails completely. If it can't send the timing of the crank the PCM won't send fuel through the injectors
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Old Sep 4, 2019 | 01:51 PM
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starting issues yes, cranking issues no.
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Old Sep 4, 2019 | 03:07 PM
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I actually looked it up and if it is the crankshaft positioning sensor it said it can cause starting issues or no start at all if it fails completely. If it can't send the timing of the crank the PCM won't send fuel through the injectors
There is no cam position sensor on a distributor. By definition the distributor is driven by the camshaft


So to cut to the problem, you can try replacing the distributor cap and rotor and wires and plugs just like you would on a car with no maintenance records.

If that doesn't work then I would assume fuel issues. You can rent a fuel pressure test gauge at any auto parts stores
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Old Sep 4, 2019 | 04:01 PM
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There is no cam position sensor on a distributor. By definition the distributor is driven by the camshaft


So to cut to the problem, you can try replacing the distributor cap and rotor and wires and plugs just like you would on a car with no maintenance records.

If that doesn't work then I would assume fuel issues. You can rent a fuel pressure test gauge at any auto parts stores
I actually did put a new dizzy cap and rotor as well as spark wires. I pulled the old crank sensor off and it had a bad nic in the wire where the sensor was. Changed it out and found a loose relay. Clicked that back in and put everything back together after I put the CPS in and I fires right up now. It idles pretty decent it drops and rises sometimes but usually stays consistent. But now when I push the clutch and put in gear it dies. I can get her rolling a little bit if I gas the hell out of it but not like it should be moving and then when i did try and drive it down the road it dies Everytime I pushed the clutch to the floor. I will say it sounds like the valves need to be adjusted cause they sound rough when I rev the engine but again at idle it sounds and runs fine, check engine light also back on. Might just grab a code reader again when I'm off work tmmrw
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