d15b2 sleeves
I have a d15b2 from a 92 delsol and i was searching Darton MID sleeves,
but i only found d16's sleeves, in my knowledge the only difference from both engines is the rod length that i need to worry about,
so if i buy d16 darton mid sleeves will i have a problem to fitt them in my d15?
Can someone point me out to the right direction, the bore size are the same right? even thou im going to re bore it, will there be any problems regarding wall thickness?
but i only found d16's sleeves, in my knowledge the only difference from both engines is the rod length that i need to worry about,
so if i buy d16 darton mid sleeves will i have a problem to fitt them in my d15?
Can someone point me out to the right direction, the bore size are the same right? even thou im going to re bore it, will there be any problems regarding wall thickness?
Contact Darton because it's their aftermarket product.
I have a d15b2 from a 92 delsol and i was searching Darton MID sleeves,
but i only found d16's sleeves, in my knowledge the only difference from both engines is the rod length that i need to worry about,
so if i buy d16 darton mid sleeves will i have a problem to fitt them in my d15?
Can someone point me out to the right direction, the bore size are the same right? even thou im going to re bore it, will there be any problems regarding wall thickness?
but i only found d16's sleeves, in my knowledge the only difference from both engines is the rod length that i need to worry about,
so if i buy d16 darton mid sleeves will i have a problem to fitt them in my d15?
Can someone point me out to the right direction, the bore size are the same right? even thou im going to re bore it, will there be any problems regarding wall thickness?
I'm not familiar with the D15, but if rod length is different, that means that stroke is likely different (hence the difference in displacement) which also means the block height may be shorter, which then means the cylinders would be shorter.
Just spitballing here, but I'd check the specs on D15 blocks vs. D16, and actually call Darton before jumping the gun. I'd also question why you're wasting your money with a D15 anyway, but to each their own.
Just spitballing here, but I'd check the specs on D15 blocks vs. D16, and actually call Darton before jumping the gun. I'd also question why you're wasting your money with a D15 anyway, but to each their own.
Why im wasting money on a d15, well in my country everyone swaps to b16, b18, k20, and practicaly remain the same hp rangebetween 150-230 n/a, and few get some more horses out of the b series boosted application , but few are with the sohc, i think that the d series have a lot of potential, first time i boosted it which im still running on 7psi with some arp studs and fuel pump walbroo255. stock block, stock injectors, stock ecu etc it was impressive the ammount of power that i felt considering a small cc engine, and that kinda impress me more. Now i would like to make alot more out of it.
also i know what engine i have inside out, what is the weekpart, which part is changed to new parts, which ones are about to brake (example), if i buy another swap, ill have to begin from the beginnning to sort things out thats why i would like to stay with d series.
Regarding Sleeve length and deck etc, i already contacted durton and doesnt have a right answer as they sent me machinist specs of the sleeve, now i have another d15 block stripped and go to my local one,
And again the machine shop if i get him a d16 sleeve which is longer from d15 deck height, he can resurface it with the d15 right?
thanks guys
also i know what engine i have inside out, what is the weekpart, which part is changed to new parts, which ones are about to brake (example), if i buy another swap, ill have to begin from the beginnning to sort things out thats why i would like to stay with d series.
Regarding Sleeve length and deck etc, i already contacted durton and doesnt have a right answer as they sent me machinist specs of the sleeve, now i have another d15 block stripped and go to my local one,
And again the machine shop if i get him a d16 sleeve which is longer from d15 deck height, he can resurface it with the d15 right?
thanks guys
I built my SOHC years back, now after swapping to a b18c1...... I will never go back, it was a massive difference in performance and it’s a 11 sec car without building the b18c1, just added turbo setup
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Buy sleeves from a company willing to provide you with actual customer service.
I would be shocked if a machine shop could not resurface a sleeved block. But discuss with your machinist in advance.
I would be shocked if a machine shop could not resurface a sleeved block. But discuss with your machinist in advance.
If you're determined to stay with SOHC, I'd at least get a D16 and sleeve that. You could also potentially do something like the CSS process from CNCWerx, but since you're in Europe the cost of shipping would likely make this completelyimpractical for you.
Its up to you, boost the d16 and most likely have problems down the road, why? Because 250whp after the boost isn’t going to be enough, I know it seems like now it is but you’ll want more. And that’s when **** starts breaking on a d series.
Everybody is going with turbo b series because the hp per dollar is great. Take a stock long block and boost it to 350whp safely... Now that’s plenty of power on the street. It’s cool to be different but don’t be stupid.
Yes getting it all together is easier because the d15 is in your car. But that’s about the only reason why’d it’d be easier. Let’s be honest it’s not worth it though. Especially when a mild bolt on N/A b20 vtec is head to head or even pulling on your boosted d.
And all of this for what? To save a few hundred dollars?
Everybody is going with turbo b series because the hp per dollar is great. Take a stock long block and boost it to 350whp safely... Now that’s plenty of power on the street. It’s cool to be different but don’t be stupid.
Yes getting it all together is easier because the d15 is in your car. But that’s about the only reason why’d it’d be easier. Let’s be honest it’s not worth it though. Especially when a mild bolt on N/A b20 vtec is head to head or even pulling on your boosted d.
And all of this for what? To save a few hundred dollars?
Why im wasting money on a d15, well in my country everyone swaps to b16, b18, k20, and practicaly remain the same hp rangebetween 150-230 n/a, and few get some more horses out of the b series boosted application , but few are with the sohc, i think that the d series have a lot of potential, first time i boosted it which im still running on 7psi with some arp studs and fuel pump walbroo255. stock block, stock injectors, stock ecu etc it was impressive the ammount of power that i felt considering a small cc engine, and that kinda impress me more. Now i would like to make alot more out of it.
also i know what engine i have inside out, what is the weekpart, which part is changed to new parts, which ones are about to brake (example), if i buy another swap, ill have to begin from the beginnning to sort things out thats why i would like to stay with d series.
Regarding Sleeve length and deck etc, i already contacted durton and doesnt have a right answer as they sent me machinist specs of the sleeve, now i have another d15 block stripped and go to my local one,
And again the machine shop if i get him a d16 sleeve which is longer from d15 deck height, he can resurface it with the d15 right?
thanks guys
also i know what engine i have inside out, what is the weekpart, which part is changed to new parts, which ones are about to brake (example), if i buy another swap, ill have to begin from the beginnning to sort things out thats why i would like to stay with d series.
Regarding Sleeve length and deck etc, i already contacted durton and doesnt have a right answer as they sent me machinist specs of the sleeve, now i have another d15 block stripped and go to my local one,
And again the machine shop if i get him a d16 sleeve which is longer from d15 deck height, he can resurface it with the d15 right?
thanks guys
There's a big difference between resurfacing for a flat surface, and resurfacing sleeves that are 5mm over.
If you're determined to stay with SOHC, I'd at least get a D16 and sleeve that. You could also potentially do something like the CSS process from CNCWerx, but since you're in Europe the cost of shipping would likely make this completelyimpractical for you.
If you're determined to stay with SOHC, I'd at least get a D16 and sleeve that. You could also potentially do something like the CSS process from CNCWerx, but since you're in Europe the cost of shipping would likely make this completelyimpractical for you.
But we ll see as some answers now are making sens.
thanks
Its up to you, boost the d16 and most likely have problems down the road, why? Because 250whp after the boost isn’t going to be enough, I know it seems like now it is but you’ll want more. And that’s when **** starts breaking on a d series.
Everybody is going with turbo b series because the hp per dollar is great. Take a stock long block and boost it to 350whp safely... Now that’s plenty of power on the street. It’s cool to be different but don’t be stupid.
Yes getting it all together is easier because the d15 is in your car. But that’s about the only reason why’d it’d be easier. Let’s be honest it’s not worth it though. Especially when a mild bolt on N/A b20 vtec is head to head or even pulling on your boosted d.
And all of this for what? To save a few hundred dollars?
Everybody is going with turbo b series because the hp per dollar is great. Take a stock long block and boost it to 350whp safely... Now that’s plenty of power on the street. It’s cool to be different but don’t be stupid.
Yes getting it all together is easier because the d15 is in your car. But that’s about the only reason why’d it’d be easier. Let’s be honest it’s not worth it though. Especially when a mild bolt on N/A b20 vtec is head to head or even pulling on your boosted d.
And all of this for what? To save a few hundred dollars?
Sounds like the OP wants to do something different. The other members here who have chimed in are simply offering up the idea that it is easier to make power with other platforms, and there are countless recipes for builds of "B" and "K" series engines that you can copy. The bottom line is that the "D" will always have to work harder to match a "B" or "K". You should probably consider finding a D16 block for the Darton sleeves... cutting .200" off the top can be done by a qualified machine shop, but I am not sure if any other dimensions differ with the D15 block, and thus, the sleeves may be challenging to install.
There's nothing wrong with a D15 motor. A buddy of mine slapped a Greddy turbo kit on his 4dr LX ('94 I believe) and it outruns modded B-series swapped Civics all day. Money for money, that wasn't a bad deal.
i was going the easiest way, slap some piston/rod combo and a block guard, but wasnt happy with the allignment of the block guard, it was then that i started searching css and then my local machine shop told me that block guards arent good as when the engine heated and cooled the block guard might shrink on the sleeves.
so thats why I wanted mid sleeves
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