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Old Oct 27, 2018 | 01:02 AM
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I had the car for around 3 years. H22A 5 speed w/p28 chipped ecu. I installed a turbo kit and had the car tuned using Neptune, at that time the car put 305hp on dynojet. Last few days i replaced the turbo because it was smoking, I went to the dyno again and was very disappointed with the results only it makes 210hp!! I went home and made a compression test and the numbers were too low 115,110,140,135. I dont have access for leakdown tester and i dont have an air compressor. I suspect the head gasket but i dont know if i have worn rings too. Is there any method to check. I have some issues that makes me think it is the head gasket; The car temp gauge bounces sometimes i replaced the sensor,wiring and gauge but still same. The radiator is brand new and the coolant color turned to brown. Also the dizzy leaks internally i replaced the seal and tried another dizzy still leaked. I am not loosing oil. Any suggestions before pulling the head?
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Old Oct 27, 2018 | 02:40 AM
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Don't pull anything until you figure out how to get the leak down test done.

Get another distributor.
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Old Oct 27, 2018 | 05:05 AM
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Those are some very low test numbers, I tested mine the other day (b18c1 @ 9.1 compression) and mine was like 208,210,210,210. What compression is your setup? Most compression testers will disconnect from the gauge so you can plug your air hose into each cylinder, it don’t take very much air pressure to here where the leaks are. Air from dipstick or valve cover would be bad rigs, from intake or exhaust would be valves, from radiator could be head gasket. Just set each cylinder to top dead center to test.
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Old Oct 27, 2018 | 07:52 AM
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Those are some very low test numbers,
Depends on how OP did the test.
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Old Oct 27, 2018 | 09:39 AM
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Those are some very low test numbers, I tested mine the other day (b18c1 @ 9.1 compression) and mine was like 208,210,210,210. What compression is your setup? Most compression testers will disconnect from the gauge so you can plug your air hose into each cylinder, it don’t take very much air pressure to here where the leaks are. Air from dipstick or valve cover would be bad rigs, from intake or exhaust would be valves, from radiator could be head gasket. Just set each cylinder to top dead center to test.
stock bottom compression 10.0 low boost. I have a compression tester but I don’t have air compressor. What kind of air compressor I need to do this test?
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Depends on how OP did the test.
i warm up the car and did the test but I forgot to perform it at wot.
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stock bottom compression 10.0 low boost. I have a compression tester but I don’t have air compressor. What kind of air compressor I need to do this test?
‘just need to be able to feed air into the cylinder to listen for leaks. It’s been a long time since I had the need to do a leak test. YouTube how to do a leak test is what I recommend
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i warm up the car and did the test but I forgot to perform it at wot.
i always pull all the plugs out during the test to help the motor turn easily, also make sure to either unplug the ECU or Distributor during test
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i warm up the car and did the test but I forgot to perform it at wot.
Redo the test after warming up the engine, removing all spark plugs and disabling fuel, and at WOT.
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So redid the test again with the motor warm up and disconnected the ecu and got the accurate numbers 123,120,150,155 it does increased a bit. I need to get my hands on leak down tester and air compressor. Guys anyone knows a cheap and good air compressor? Can’t I just buy the portable one and modify the fittings?
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So redid the test again with the motor warm up and disconnected the ecu and got the accurate numbers 123,120,150,155 it does increased a bit. I need to get my hands on leak down tester and air compressor. Guys anyone knows a cheap and good air compressor? Can’t I just buy the portable one and modify the fittings?



Did you do the test with all spark plugs removed at wide open throttle (WOT).

You can rent a compression tester FREE from AutoZone. By removing the Shrader valve, the tester is converted to a leakdown tester.
https://www.autozone.com/loan-a-tool...set/695110_0_0

You can buy an adequate inexpensive air compressor from Harbor Freight Tools. Be sure to get a 20% off coupon from DealsPlus.
This may be adequate:
https://www.harborfreight.com/3-gall...sor-95275.html

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Old Oct 28, 2018 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by muellersfan
Did you do the test with all spark plugs removed at wide open throttle (WOT).

You can rent a compression tester FREE from AutoZone. By removing the Shrader valve, the tester is converted to a leakdown tester.
https://www.autozone.com/loan-a-tool...set/695110_0_0

You can buy an adequate inexpensive air compressor from Harbor Freight Tools. Be sure to get a 20% off coupon from DealsPlus.
This may be adequate:
https://www.harborfreight.com/3-gall...sor-95275.html
Yeah, i did.
thanks a lot bro
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Old Oct 29, 2018 | 06:11 AM
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Yeah, i did.
thanks a lot bro

Pressurizing each cylinder at TDC to 40-50 PSI should allow you to identify where compression is lost.

Based on the information provided, the head gasket is almost surely blown. The leakdown may verify the latter diagnosis, though a cracked block or head is another possibility.

You can obtain information about piston ring/cylinder wear by comparing cylinder PSI readings from compression tests done with versus without addition of a tablespoon or so of engine oil to each cylinder.
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