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Old May 27, 2018 | 04:46 PM
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Later on about September, I should have plenty of money saved up for a Honda Civic Del Sol. Right now I only own a motorcycle. Ok, so I was thinking, I would love to have a del sol with a motor swap using a 4g63 engine and put out around 400-500 whp. I would also like the car to be awd.

So perhaps a shell would be good, then swap and other parts needed bought and installed. I have no idea who could help me around here. I'm in Minnesota. No experience working on cars. I used to own a del sol back in the day.

How much would it be to get a project like that done? At the right time, I will have about 8-9 k to use. hopefully the project will be less, but thats that.
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Old May 27, 2018 | 04:50 PM
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No, thats not enough. Also why a Mitsubishi motor
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Old May 27, 2018 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by TheRottingPlum
del sol with a motor swap using a 4g63 engine and put out around 400-500 whp. I would also like the car to be awd.

No experience working on cars.

At the right time, I will have about 8-9 k to use. hopefully the project will be less, but thats that.
You're gonna have a bad time. Just get an Evo if you want an AWD 4G63, either that or look into a turbo B Del Sol build while keeping FWD.

4G swap with AWD in a Honda chassis will easily cost double the price range you're currently looking at, especially if you aren't doing any of the fabrication work yourself.
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Old May 27, 2018 | 07:51 PM
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You're gonna have a bad time. Just get an Evo if you want an AWD 4G63, either that or look into a turbo B Del Sol build while keeping FWD.

4G swap with AWD in a Honda chassis will easily cost double the price range you're currently looking at, especially if you aren't doing any of the fabrication work yourself.
Chance, this is why I’m going to orientation for a welding class next week...
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Old May 27, 2018 | 09:08 PM
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OP, are you aware of the quality difference between ANY Honda/Acura engine and a 4G63 engine ??? Funny that this is your first post... and ironic that you joined a Honda Forum to ask about a Mitsubishi engine.

Me thinks thou art a troll... oh, and welcome to the board.
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Old May 28, 2018 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by JRCivic1
OP, are you aware of the quality difference between ANY Honda/Acura engine and a 4G63 engine ??? Funny that this is your first post... and ironic that you joined a Honda Forum to ask about a Mitsubishi engine.

Me thinks thou art a troll... oh, and welcome to the board.
I wouldn't assume him a troll honestly. 4G swaps into Hondas has been done quite a few times before, but there's no documentation on the process or how to do it, and now that AWD "all Honda" swaps are becoming more popular, I think the 4G swaps will continue to fade away.

And the 4G63 is still a pretty amazing engine. Cylinder heads don't flow on par with B/K/H/F engines, but as long as you don't get one of the older 4G engines with the dreaded crank walk problem, they're pretty solid.
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Old May 28, 2018 | 08:59 AM
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Del sol shell 500-1000, used 4G63 engine and tranny 1500-1800, to have a shop fully build it 2000-3500 just for the block/ crank/ pistions etc, more if you want head work. Then labor for a custom install of a different brand engine you are looking at 3 to 4k in labor alone then cutom fabrication for AWD drivetrain could be thousands more. Then turbo setup, intercooler, custom piping, custom exhaust etc probably 5-6k easy in parts and labor. Then professional dyno tuning 300-700. Even for a shop with good rates you are looking at 15k bare minimum man, probably closer to 20 when you factor unknown issues.
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Old May 28, 2018 | 11:30 AM
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wow, 20 large for something like that. I'll probably go ahead and get something already built. I'm sure there would be a nice car out there for no more then 10g. Honestly, I'm looking for certain imports, most from 1990-1999. 300zx is in the running. MR2 in the running. Trying to brain storm what it is that I think I would like, or a way to get there.
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Old May 28, 2018 | 04:27 PM
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9k will go pretty far getting a nice already built car, there are plenty of 500+hp imports for that price.
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Old May 29, 2018 | 07:16 AM
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Lol one post wonders, am I right?
Going through the trouble of swapping a 4g63 into a honda, instead of just buying an eclipse or easily building a honda engine to 500whp is one of the dumbest things I have read all week.
If you need a 4g63 and awd, just buy a gsx eclipse and be done with it....
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Old May 29, 2018 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by CandyRedRC46
If you need a 4g63 and awd, just buy a gsx eclipse and be done with it....
Unfortunately, a clean 2nd gen GSX Eclipse is rarer than a Unicorn with D cups now. Very hard to find.
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Old May 29, 2018 | 10:55 AM
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Someone working at my local Lowe's has the cleanest first gen eagle talon I have ever seen. I am not sure if its fwd or awd, but it is definitely the turbo model and extremely stock. It gets me running major life decisions in my head every time I see it. It would be so low key/under the radar here (central florida is dominated by orlando fiebre civic **** boxes. no one would bat an eye at a clean dsm) and would make an awesome sleeper.
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Old May 29, 2018 | 10:58 AM
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Ok
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Old May 29, 2018 | 04:44 PM
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Can buy mid 2000s (years) MazdaSpeed (turbo) 6 AWD for cheap.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.car...drive-review-1
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Old May 29, 2018 | 05:44 PM
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Part of me wants to tear this to shreds, but the other part knows I’m too n00b for it.
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Old May 31, 2018 | 12:10 AM
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nothing wrong with someone wanting to do something different. Thats always been my passion. When i first started getting into imports it was still the laughable times when 300hp was big numbers and we were happy when we beat a stock gt mustang or stayed fender to fender with a stock corvette. Being realistic in the budget is one thing, but shooting someone down just for doing something different isnt cool.
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Old May 31, 2018 | 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by quik sol
nothing wrong with someone wanting to do something different. Thats always been my passion. When i first started getting into imports it was still the laughable times when 300hp was big numbers and we were happy when we beat a stock gt mustang or stayed fender to fender with a stock corvette. Being realistic in the budget is one thing, but shooting someone down just for doing something different isnt cool.
Well aren't we all just special snowflakes?
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Old May 31, 2018 | 05:22 AM
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everything comes down to wiring and fabrication. which of these do you have
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Old Jun 1, 2018 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by CandyRedRC46
Well aren't we all just special snowflakes?


Can I be the specialest?
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