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Old Jan 28, 2018 | 09:41 AM
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I have a b16 type r i just dropped in my 98 ek hatch it came out of rhd ek so the harness is backwards if i get a us b16 engine harness will it be compatible w my motor & car?
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Old Jan 28, 2018 | 12:31 PM
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Uh... a US B16 engine harness will be from a '99-00 Civic chassis and will not plug into a '98 Civic chassis properly. I don't think there is a "plug and play" solution... it will be best to start with the engine harness that came with the car and modify it to fit the B16B.
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Old Jan 28, 2018 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JRCivic1
Uh... a US B16 engine harness will be from a '99-00 Civic chassis and will not plug into a '98 Civic chassis properly. I don't think there is a "plug and play" solution... it will be best to start with the engine harness that came with the car and modify it to fit the B16B.
96- 97 Del Sol.
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Old Jan 29, 2018 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by JRCivic1
Uh... a US B16 engine harness will be from a '99-00 Civic chassis and will not plug into a '98 Civic chassis properly. I don't think there is a "plug and play" solution... it will be best to start with the engine harness that came with the car and modify it to fit the B16B.
Or, get a harness that already has the needed changes if you can't (unable to ) modify it.

My answer was simply based upon whether or not the engine itself will still be able to go into another chassis. The answer is YES. If that engine can go into another chassis using the same harness that he currently has, of course, the answer is NO. He asked about the engine itself using some time of U.S. Harness. He didn't express the same year. Just a U.S. Harness.
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Old Jan 29, 2018 | 07:59 AM
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Yes, us harness will work with modifications.
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Old Jan 29, 2018 | 07:55 PM
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96- 97 Del Sol.
Ooooohhhh... the '96-97 Del Sol Si VTEC DOHC engine harness !!! I forgot about that one... I believe this is the answer. It would be almost perfect... super rare and likely hard to find... but yeah.
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Old Jan 30, 2018 | 06:53 AM
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Ooooohhhh... the '96-97 Del Sol Si VTEC DOHC engine harness !!! I forgot about that one... I believe this is the answer. It would be almost perfect... super rare and likely hard to find... but yeah.
Yessir. "Hard to find" is an understatement. This is where my thoughts had turned to having a basic harness made by Rywire, WireWorx, etc. Although a bit of a penny, it will be flawless and he can get additional guidance from the people who make them themselves without having to go through a lot of guesswork.
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Old Jan 30, 2018 | 10:02 AM
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A 96-98 sohc vtec engine harness will work too. There is nothing unique about a b16b as far as sensors go. Over paying for a custom harness is stupid when you can get one for $50 or less locally.
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Old Jan 31, 2018 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Chrisfrom1986
A 96-98 sohc vtec engine harness will work too. There is nothing unique about a b16b as far as sensors go. Over paying for a custom harness is stupid when you can get one for $50 or less locally.
Give me an idea of where that kind of deal is, (without saying "boneyard" or "junkyard") and I'll gladly buy about 5 or 6 of them, repair any wiring and resell them for a profit.

Many of these companies have near-ready made harnesses for this engine, so he doesn't have to chase issues later. But again, OP must decide.
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Old Jan 31, 2018 | 10:34 AM
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My Integra and dx hatch both use engine harnesses from used cars. I wouldn't second guess a harness I removed myself from a junkyard car. If you were incapable of inspecting a harness before you buy it then I'd be left wondering how you wouid be capable of an engine swap. Anyway I seriously doubt the OP even has a b16b.
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Old Jan 31, 2018 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Chrisfrom1986
My Integra and dx hatch both use engine harnesses from used cars. I wouldn't second guess a harness I removed myself from a junkyard car. If you were incapable of inspecting a harness before you buy it then I'd be left wondering how you wouid be capable of an engine swap. Anyway I seriously doubt the OP even has a b16b.
Not necessarily. I guess we'd have to agree to disagree. Simply because one may not understand all the components and factors of a given task, doesn't mean that it couldn't be completed. If it meant that he would save time and resources to spend a few extra dollars on something he may not be the most familiar with, wouldn't the end justify the means?

That's like saying that someone shouldn't plaster their wall if they don't mix/stir their own "mud" using powder plaster & water, and instead, purchases a tub of the pre-made mud that turns colors to tell you that it's dry and ready for the next coat or sanding. In the end, the wall still got finished, with some time to spare. Meanwhile, all of the other steps still had to be followed in order for the wall to be completed..

Is the person who didn't mix their own "mud" as one of the steps to fixing their wall truly any less competent than the person who did? In the end, did it really matter? I would say no.
You did it in a way that was less expensive in material, but someone's time is always worth something, even if its your own. So, yes, Kudos for you for creating your own wiring harness. But please don't forget, that's a cost that we all have to balance as a decision factor., and sometimes its worth that extra cost to have something right out of the box ready to go and not "create" your own harness.

Apparently, enough people have the same philosophy or there would be no demand at all for pre-made harnesses, and organizations like Rywire and Wireworx, wouldn't exist, and we'd be stuck in 1998 when we had to create jumper harnesses and hacked wiring harnesses ourselves. I for one am glad that this option is at least available. But not retrofiting one doesn't make a person doing this an incompetent person when doing a swap.

IMHO, the OP's situation is no exception to that.
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Old Jan 31, 2018 | 12:48 PM
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Cousin bought a 'mint' em1 engine harness. Little did he know that certain plugs were cut until I checked it.
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Old Jan 31, 2018 | 01:23 PM
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I just had to deal with a previous owners "custom" harness. Ultimately, I had to cut about 10 wires on the dash harness just to remove the engine bay harness and wouldn't be suprised if somewhere in the mess was the cause of my ignition problem.
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Old Feb 1, 2018 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Chrisfrom1986
My Integra and dx hatch both use engine harnesses from used cars. I wouldn't second guess a harness I removed myself from a junkyard car. If you were incapable of inspecting a harness before you buy it then I'd be left wondering how you wouid be capable of an engine swap. Anyway I seriously doubt the OP even has a b16b.
Yo why would i ask if I didn’t have im only 20 I don’t have extensive knowledge yet that’s why you ask. You ****
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Old Feb 1, 2018 | 07:07 PM
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Just remove the jdm harness and use a 96-98 vtec engine harness, that will at least get it running. Looks like you're missing the map sensor and you'll need to figure out which throttle cable you'll need.
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Old Feb 2, 2018 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Chrisfrom1986
Just remove the jdm harness and use a 96-98 vtec engine harness, that will at least get it running. Looks like you're missing the map sensor and you'll need to figure out which throttle cable you'll need.
Pretty much. Use an OEM Type R throttle cable bracket.

Heh... "only 20"... You a grown man already.. Time to get to work, son.
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