hey guys eric here im new to the forum and just wanted to say hey and check in with yall and share my build i picked a 94 civic ex up from buddy. so far the parts list goes white face gauges, nardi steering wheel, pillar pod with gauges,d16z6 block, eibach coil overs, front and rear strut braces, shaved d16z6 head bored .20 over, stage 1 voodoo cam, aem adjustable cam gear, cold air intake, arp head bolts, eagle h beam rods, je pistons, arp hardware in bottom end, 255 fuel pump, b18 integra injectors, fuel pressure regulator, integra axles, stage 1 clutch, integra rear disc brake coversion, dc sport header and midpipe, apexi n1 exhaust and a p28 ecu.whoo that was a mouth full anyways my goal is to hit 400 horses. what advice would my fellow honda techs have as far as build wise? any help is greatly appreciated!

 

There is no replacement for displacement and no reduction with forced induction.

 

you have alot of reading/research to do if you are serious about building that engine. First, integra injectors are the same as civic injectors, both are 240cc. second, i cant tell if you are trolling or not, but the only naturally aspirated 4 cyl hondas making 400 hp are 15:1+ compression K series 2.4 liters and bigger. With a d series you will be lucky to see more than 150-160whp with a stock port head. You could reach 200 with a ported head and a bigger cam, but thats about the limit of a d series unless you want to make it a dedicated race engine - ie: 14+ compression, methanol fuel, ITBs, etc.
Bottom line, if you want to stick with d series, be happy with 150hp. If you want 400 hp, build a basic piston/rod b series and turbo it.

 

I seem to disagree with you i have seen multiple d series running 400 to even 600hp and still running on pump gas. Granted I'm no expert in Hondas but I know my fair share. It isn't impossible at all to get that much power out of a d series. A buddy of mine has a identical build except for a few things he has wisesco pistons at 11 and a half compression and he is running 15psi all day no problem and is putting down 398 to the wheels and he also has a d16z6

 

i am referring to naturally aspirated. you never stated you were going to bolt on a turbo... and you posted your thread in the NATURALLY ASPIRATED/ALL MOTOR forum

 

400 hp is possible on a d series, but only attainable with boost. No one said it was impossible to attain that, just not naturally aspirated.

 

Wow people... seems like people just don't read things... like where to post a turbo discussion... just wow

 

No one said that 400-600whp can't be done, the question is if it makes sense in your situation if it should be done. You have to look at this more than just a "Peak power" situation. The end number rarely ever justifies the means. For example, if you got a turbocharger that is capable of over 600whp on high-knock resistant fuel, that doesn't mean that it's the same turbocharger that you should use for only 350whp, simply because you believe that "turning the boost down" will help your drivability. Depending upon your purpose, your selection of an overly larger turbocharger will make the car unresponsive, horribly laggy, and downright a PITA, because someone in a stock Focus ST beat the pants off of you and your "600whp" within the 1st 300 meters. You have to plan and look at what works best for your particular displacement (including the stroke) and work with the turbocharger type that is going to benefit you most in your use. Which goes back to you telling us the "purpose" of the car.

So, remember, in addition to researching which materials work and what turbocharger to get, you need to be honest with yourself, with self-researching, and think about what the purpose of your car is, what fuel you plan to use and its availability in your area, what type of budget you have for the turbocharger itself, where to tune it, etc. There's plenty in the FAQs that have been recently added, please take a look at them thoroughly. You'd be surprised at what you'll come up with.

Since you're going turbocharger, and it was posted in the incorrect forum, I'm going to more this over to forced induction and rename your title here.

 

OP, listen to this ^^^^^^^ guy !!! I bet he has forgotten more about turbocharging than most people know.

 

Was this thread moved ??? This IS the Forced Induction forum.

 

Yeah, it was in the Naturally Aspirated section.

 

Yeah, Shodan moved it to the correct forum.

b18 injectors are identical to d16 injectors - they're both 240cc/min. To hit your goal you'll need something bigger. I've done plenty of d16 builds, but if I was going to do it again just save your money and swap to a b18 vtec something. You can hit your power goal with the motor being mostly stock, its gonna be way easier and more reliable, the transmissions are stronger and have better ratios, way more choices, equal length axles ftw, stronger clutches, and so on. Unless you're on some d16 crusade swap to a b18vtec, in the long run it will save you money.

I also don't think a stage1 clutch will hold 400hp - at least not for long.

 

 

^ that's a very important and often overlooked or diluted step.

 

Yeah, I'm like an old man. I have to write everything down now to make sure I remember it later. You should see the notebooks. I'd scan it, but if my server goes down, I've lost years of data and specifications. So I'm paranoid

 

Cloud backup or purchase a cheap external HDD?

 

I have a dedicated 6TB personal cloud server connected to a VPN for backup of over 18 years of documents, files, manuals, and specifications from over 400 different turbochargers from 5 companies. (Not to mention blogs, Honda, Nissan, Toyota, Brembo, Honeywell, and Grainger in 2 languages)

The only off-site cloud I have is my own, as I don't trust cloud services and their security. Plus. It's hard to make sketches and drawings on the fly for ideas or concepts when I need to. As much as I love Star Trek TNG and their future use of tablets and pads, It doesn't do any good if the batteries go out or I'm in an area where it is electrically sensitive.

The reason why I have to rewrite certain things is because I have SO much data, that it actually takes too long to find certain things. I just flip to the notebook if I'm at a place where I don't have decent internet access or don't have my mobilepack to connect to my FTP partition. Or if I'm in an area where Wi-Fi access isn't allowed by company security protocol.

I love human beings, I just tend not to trust them..

 

<-- pen, paper, clip board, and notebook guy. I believe its detrimental to certain parts of the memory...but hey.

anyway

A 400whp D16 and a 600whp D16 are really 2 very different types of setups. The parts list will vary quite a bit; the power curve will vary drastically. Which one is it we're talking about?

Liam821 is also correct; a "Stage 1" clutch wouldn't really work in either situation. A turbo D will make the torque to overpower a "Basic replacement" clutch in a heartbeat.

 

OP has two posts, one to tell us about his mod list (white face gauges ) and one to tell us we're wrong. Guys, I'm gonna call this one. Time of thread death 02/01/2018 01:09PM

 

 

i loled pretty good when i read that