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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 01:20 AM
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So i recently picked up a d16z6 with 50k miles and having my car already equipped with a z6 i figured i should build the one i picked up.
So here is what i have part wise so far.
D16z6 ported and polished head with no internals.
Decked D16z6 block with no internals.
Micro polished OEM crankshaft.
P28 ecu with hondata s300.
And now on to the parts i ordered.
This first list of parts is for the head only.
blox racing valve springs and titanium retainers.
Supertech racing valves and seals.
Golden eagle fuel rail.
VMS racing adjustable fpr.
Acura 440cc injectors.
OBX polished throttle body.
Skunk 2 black series intake manifold.
como cams 59300
ARP head studs.
Skunk2 adjustable cam gear.
MSD blaster ignition and cap
NGK spark plug wires.
This list is block parts only.
ACL race bearings.
Manley forged H rods.
ARP rod bolts.
Vitra 75mm pistons.
So thats all the parts i have ordered at this point, now im looking for advice on what else i should get, what kind of horsepower im looking at building out of this. That kind of thing. All advice is welcome please this is my first time building a single cam.
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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 01:25 AM
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Yeah it's all garbage. Throw it all away..

kidding kidding looks solid

good luck
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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Couchwarrior
Yeah it's all garbage. Throw it all away..

kidding kidding looks solid

good luck
Haha I figured. Thanks.
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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 02:28 AM
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What kind of power goal are you looking for? Are you going to keep in N/A or are you planning on F/I? I assume you're looking to F/I using Vitaras. Feel free to check out my build thread if you want some ideas.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-...d16y8-3309712/

FWIW, those injectors are only good for about 230-250 whp at stock fuel pressure. I don't recommend bumping the pressure to get more out of them though it is possible to do. It's just not very reliable.

Last edited by adamhunsicker; Jan 2, 2018 at 02:30 AM. Reason: Clarification on Power Ratings
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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 06:11 AM
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Did you already buy the bearings, before mic'ing out the clearances?
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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 06:49 AM
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Did you already buy the bearings, before mic'ing out the clearances?
This was my thought as well. Would also be worthwhile to get the rotating assembly balanced.

All motor you may see ~140whp out of this. Forced Induction will leave sleeves as the bottleneck/weak point at about 250WHP, followed by the injectors.

No idea what your power goals were but I'd suggest just aiming for a good 200WHP tune on what you have.
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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Chance EG
This was my thought as well. Would also be worthwhile to get the rotating assembly balanced.

All motor you may see ~140whp out of this. Forced Induction will leave sleeves as the bottleneck/weak point at about 250WHP, followed by the injectors.

No idea what your power goals were but I'd suggest just aiming for a good 200WHP tune on what you have.
Stock sleeves are good for a lot more than 250whp... I'm hoping he's going fi with this setup considering Vitaras bring the commission ratio WAY down.
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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 09:22 AM
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Thank you guys for the advice, i got the bearings after. And i plan on goin forced induction. I already have 2 turbo's dont know which to use tho. I have a holset hx35 and an AR .70 intake side with a .80 hot side. And what kind of injectors would you guys reccommend instead of the 440cc. My power goals were around 250-300 and the is going to be getting sleeved.
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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 10:17 AM
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In my opinion, when it comes to injectors it's better to go too big than too small. I'm running ID 1000cc injectors in my D16.
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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 10:21 AM
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Ok well i know someone with some rc 1000cc that they would let me have for pretty cheap. With those tho i would need the plug ends correct? Or is it plug nd play?
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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by BrokeNEJ
Thank you guys for the advice, i got the bearings after. And i plan on goin forced induction. I already have 2 turbo's dont know which to use tho. I have a holset hx35 and an AR .70 intake side with a .80 hot side. And what kind of injectors would you guys reccommend instead of the 440cc. My power goals were around 250-300 and the is going to be getting sleeved.
HX35 and any .70 A/R turbo are grossly over sized for your engine, injectors, and power goals.

Sleeving is a good idea. If you're dead set on using one of those two turbos, you may as well upgrade the injectors and shoot for 350-400.
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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Chance EG
HX35 and any .70 A/R turbo are grossly over sized for your engine, injectors, and power goals.

Sleeving is a good idea. If you're dead set on using one of those two turbos, you may as well upgrade the injectors and shoot for 350-400.
Ok well im going to get some rc 1000cc from a buddy and mostly dead set on those 2 turbos because they were free and i have them. And sleeves are a must i realize. But thanks for the input. ☺
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Old Jan 3, 2018 | 04:54 AM
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Trade one or both turbos to someone with a smaller turbo looking to go bigger. Small displacement + big turbo doesn't sound like much fun.
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Old Jan 3, 2018 | 07:15 AM
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Sleeves and big turbo, but only aiming for 250-300?
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