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Old May 30, 2017 | 04:15 AM
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hi I'm having a simple problem and I cant find accurate info.
I picked up a engine Stand & lift for 100$. brand new from a friend.
Now, I'm trying to put my b20 on the stand.
I do not have any bolts that will fit into the block from the stand.

I also read I will only use 3 of the 4 arms? is this accurate?
What would the proper length & size bolts needed?
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Old May 30, 2017 | 11:06 AM
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I used the transmission case bolts or some long bolts that fit through the casing holes if they weren't threaded with a respective nut, used all 4 arms and I had to go pick up some steel nuts that were bigger than the bolts to use as spacers so the engine wasn't loose on the stand.

You can see some of it in my picture below:
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Old May 30, 2017 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by TomCat39
I used the transmission case bolts or some long bolts that fit through the casing holes if they weren't threaded with a respective nut, used all 4 arms and I had to go pick up some steel nuts that were bigger than the bolts to use as spacers so the engine wasn't loose on the stand.

You can see some of it in my picture below:
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thanks for the reply. The picture helps.
unfortuantely the motor didn't come with a tranny so I don't have any bolts to test.
Guess I'll have to go with trial and error in this case. Thabks
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Old May 30, 2017 | 11:50 AM
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8mm x 40 bolts. Wouldn't hurt to get longer bolts and washers.
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Old May 30, 2017 | 11:55 AM
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8mm x 40 bolts. Wouldn't hurt to get longer bolts and washers.
Perfect. Thanks a lot bro. I appreciate it !!
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Old May 30, 2017 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by NVturbo
8mm x 40 bolts. Wouldn't hurt to get longer bolts and washers.
I don't remember, is thread pitch 1.25 (oddball Honda special) or standard 1.5?
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Old May 31, 2017 | 03:15 AM
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my bad guys.. Double-checked my notes and the correct bolt is M12x1.25 50mm
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Old May 31, 2017 | 06:04 AM
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my bad guys.. Double-checked my notes and the correct bolt is M12x1.25 50mm
Those will be a bitch to find.

1.25 thread pitch is made specifically for Honda and even the fastener companies don't carry that irregular thread pitch.

I did find that M10 x 1.5 will fit into the M12x1.25 threading well and hold decently.

These same bolts and nuts are used for the torque mounts (just short length versions) on the 92-95 civics and when I went to change to the aluminum mounts the original bolts did not fit and I had to find a solution.

Your best bet though is to go to the scrap yard and pull some tranny bolts from some civics. That way you get the M12 x 1.25 that fit perfectly.
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Old May 31, 2017 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by TomCat39
Those will be a bitch to find.

1.25 thread pitch is made specifically for Honda and even the fastener companies don't carry that irregular thread pitch.

I did find that M10 x 1.5 will fit into the M12x1.25 threading well and hold decently.

These same bolts and nuts are used for the torque mounts (just short length versions) on the 92-95 civics and when I went to change to the aluminum mounts the original bolts did not fit and I had to find a solution.

Your best bet though is to go to the scrap yard and pull some tranny bolts from some civics. That way you get the M12 x 1.25 that fit perfectly.
thanks tom
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Old May 31, 2017 | 08:26 AM
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my bad guys.. Double-checked my notes and the correct bolt is M12x1.25 50mm
thanks for the correction
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Old Jun 1, 2017 | 03:06 AM
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Those will be a bitch to find.

1.25 thread pitch is made specifically for Honda and even the fastener companies don't carry that irregular thread pitch.

I did find that M10 x 1.5 will fit into the M12x1.25 threading well and hold decently.

These same bolts and nuts are used for the torque mounts (just short length versions) on the 92-95 civics and when I went to change to the aluminum mounts the original bolts did not fit and I had to find a solution.

Your best bet though is to go to the scrap yard and pull some tranny bolts from some civics. That way you get the M12 x 1.25 that fit perfectly.
Supply houses that stock metric bolts should have them. There are 3 places in my area that carry them. Yeah, for the most part, it's either Honda (online or dealership), salvage yard or part-outs.
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Old Jun 1, 2017 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by NVturbo
Supply houses that stock metric bolts should have them. There are 3 places in my area that carry them. Yeah, for the most part, it's either Honda (online or dealership), salvage yard or part-outs.
That's funny, I'm in Canada which is all metric but the 1.25 thread pitch is not common and even Fastenal didn't carry any 1.25 thread pitch bolts.

For standard metric it's 1.0 and 1.5.

Maybe next time I'm in need, we can work out a deal.
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Old Jun 1, 2017 | 08:08 AM
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Crazy. I can go down the street and get 1.25 threads, in California.
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Old Jun 1, 2017 | 08:10 AM
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TomCat....
sounds like a plan.
Last time I was at that shop, I needed 4 bolts. He had them in stock in a big *** cardboard box. The old guy just told me I could have it, FREE. lol
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Old Jun 1, 2017 | 08:52 AM
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Default Re: bolts for engine on stand?

It could also be from the style of bolt I was looking for. I needed alan head bolts not regular hex flange head.
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McMaster Carr has them.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-he...crews/=17vr5op
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Old Jun 1, 2017 | 11:06 AM
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That's awesome, I wonder if they will ship to Canada. They even have the M12 x 1.25 Alan head bolts in Grade 12.9!
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