BC Stage 2 Turbo Cams vs GSC T1 Turbo Billet Cams?

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Old May 21, 2017 | 05:18 PM
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Currently have a full GSR with a Supertech valvetrain (dual valve springs & retainers/Supertech B series Vtec Dished Valves) and also Skunk2 ProSeries Cam Gears
The block is bored and sleeved with turbo tuff pistons and rods w/micropolished GSR crank. Looking to run 400 on low boost (street) and well over 600 on high (track). Car will be on e85, precision turbo, Skunk2 Pro series manifold ported to match bwr billet throttle body, 2200 id injectors.
Looking for inputs on BC Stage 2 Turbo cams, i've looked and haven't seen much and leaning towards these to try it out, vs GSC T1 Billet turbo cams which are a little more $ but also are on back order for a few months. Thanks, just looking for inputs.
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Old May 21, 2017 | 11:30 PM
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Default Re: BC Stage 2 Turbo Cams vs GSC T1 Turbo Billet Cams?

The BC Turbo cams are effectively the old Crower 63401T-2 "Turbo grind" and pretty old school in its low duration, low overlap, high lift approach.

You'll be much better off with the GSC T1's and they will complement the rest of your setup perfectly. If the backorder situation is a problem for you then you'll actually be better off keeping stock GSR cams or running Tuner 1 or ITR cams than going to the BC turbo spec cam.

Another one you can look at is the Kelford "176-T" cams, they are a little pricey though.

https://dpraceparts.com/products/kel...b16a-b18c-vtec
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Old May 22, 2017 | 12:06 AM
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Imo we need to know manifold and turbocharger to give advice for that camshaft.
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Old May 22, 2017 | 10:47 PM
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Default Re: BC Stage 2 Turbo Cams vs GSC T1 Turbo Billet Cams?

Originally Posted by Balor_Gr
Imo we need to know manifold and turbocharger to give advice for that camshaft.
True to a degree but the GSC's are a lot more "accepting" of turbo size and manifold type than Pro 1's etc...Having said you have a point, turbo size and manifold design are stilll factors in the overall efficiency of the setup and in fact whether performance cams are required or not.
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Old May 26, 2017 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Balor_Gr
Imo we need to know manifold and turbocharger to give advice for that camshaft.
I will be running the skunk2 pro series intake manifold w/ BWR billet throttle body along with a 6266 Percision turbo. I talked to Real Street P, they were reccomending to go with the BC's because the GSC are months on back order and old will have a little more power due to a more agressive lift.
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Default Re: BC Stage 2 Turbo Cams vs GSC T1 Turbo Billet Cams?

Originally Posted by djtalm
I will be running the skunk2 pro series intake manifold w/ BWR billet throttle body along with a 6266 Percision turbo. I talked to Real Street P, they were reccomending to go with the BC's because the GSC are months on back order and old will have a little more power due to a more agressive lift.
Man don't need with those BRIAN CROWERS. If you want turbo cans and can't get GSC s, then get the Kelford 176-Ts, or stay mild.. don't waste time with those BCs.
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Old May 27, 2017 | 09:55 AM
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Skipp the BC cams.. pro1 cams will work greate on that setup too.
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Skipp the BC cams.. pro1 cams will work greate on that setup too.
On turbochargers 61lbs/min or greater yes. If less than that flow rate, then no. OEM or GSC would be best applied.
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Old May 27, 2017 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by djtalm
I will be running the skunk2 pro series intake manifold w/ BWR billet throttle body along with a 6266 Percision turbo.
This one will flow a bit more then that..
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Old May 29, 2017 | 08:10 AM
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Imo if the cars is used on the street frequently stick with ITR cams and call it a day.Other than that your setup will work with the GSC T1 too, because of the good high rpm efficiency.
But again i would just get ITRs and spend the extra money on a profesional suspension alignment (camber/toe) or a good traction bar or even an LSD with some extra money.
If you have allready have all the above GSC option looks good on your setup.
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Old May 30, 2017 | 07:47 AM
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I tried ordering a set of the GSC's a few weeks ago. I was told they're out of stock until August at the earliest. No one else seems to have any in stock. I opted for a custom spec set of Kelford 176-X after discussion the 176-T with them. They seem very knowledgeable and helped spec me out something that should work great for my setup
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Default Re: BC Stage 2 Turbo Cams vs GSC T1 Turbo Billet Cams?

Not much of a surprise. GSC Did a smaller run of the VTEC Turbo camshafts this year to measure metrics to see if demand indeed increased or if it was a coincidence from prior years where there was a lot of stock left.
I talk to Greg / Travis on a regular basis and knew this was coming up for 2017.
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Default Re: BC Stage 2 Turbo Cams vs GSC T1 Turbo Billet Cams?

Originally Posted by 91b18a1ls
I tried ordering a set of the GSC's a few weeks ago. I was told they're out of stock until August at the earliest. No one else seems to have any in stock. I opted for a custom spec set of Kelford 176-X after discussion the 176-T with them. They seem very knowledgeable and helped spec me out something that should work great for my setup
Good luck, we know the T's work great and have been proven on 170 mph cars...hope your custom grind delivers the results you after.
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