Acura Integra All Integra Except ITR

90 Da Ls B20b Shuts off

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 31, 2017 | 10:09 AM
  #1  
Mrprofits213's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Default Solved! Da B20b Shuts off

4/24 UPDATE: now I'm dealing with a no start issue.
things I have done:
Check all connections
Check all fuses
Clean the thermostat grounds
Move the valve ground to bat and frame "fixed all the clicking and buzzing
Replace distributor cap and rotor
Clean the plugs for now
Check the wires
Check for code NO CODES
Replace the main relay
Got a spare pr4 automatic ecu

Hello folks. i just got an 1990 Integra ls with a B20b swap with a pr4 ecu automatic has the b18a intake manifold. I'm having some problems the car starts fine today I let it idle for about 20-25 minutes till it reached operating temperature then I press the brake pedal then moved the shifter to Drive the car starts acting up the idle goes from 1000rmp to about 200rpm and it's stays there while the engine slowly it's dying after the engine dies the 200rpm goes to zero. The car re starts fine after it shuts off. But if I go to put it to Drive it does the same thing also as the same time I'm shifting the shifter to Drive a lot of the lights on the cluster start behaving erracting flashing on and off . Also I hear the A/T shift solenoid clicking . Anyone knows what's going on or what I can check?

Last edited by Mrprofits213; May 6, 2017 at 03:01 PM.
Reply
Old Apr 1, 2017 | 04:55 PM
  #2  
tamboo's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,994
Likes: 43
From: sleeping in a 368k 95 gs-r
Default Re: 90 Da Ls B20b Shuts off

possible bad/dirty ig switch.


DIY Ignition switch cleaning - Team Integra Forums - Team Integra
Reply
Old Apr 2, 2017 | 09:24 AM
  #3  
Mrprofits213's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Default Re: 90 Da Ls B20b Shuts off

here is a video of what it's doing.

Last edited by Mrprofits213; Apr 2, 2017 at 09:40 AM.
Reply
Old Apr 2, 2017 | 09:28 AM
  #4  
Mrprofits213's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Default Re: 90 Da Ls B20b Shuts off

Originally Posted by tamboo
thanks I will check on to that. And report back.
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2017 | 02:33 PM
  #5  
Mrprofits213's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Default Re: 90 Da Ls B20b Shuts off

Originally Posted by tamboo
hello. I finally was able to clean the ignition switch and it didn't fixed the problem. Problems still persist.
Reply
Old Apr 7, 2017 | 01:06 AM
  #6  
trm4life's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 312
Likes: 0
From: Iowa
Default Re: 90 Da Ls B20b Shuts off

Well for starters, I know that finding A PR4 ECU, is almost impossible these days. I think it's weird they did a swap and kept it automatic. Most companies who make tuned ECUs only make them for manual. That said, you should try to do diagnostics. Find the jumper under the passenger side dash. Use a piece of wire or paperclip to "jump" the wire. Turn the key and see if your check engine light flashes. Also, under the dash, driver side, is your automatic transmission module. This module has a circle window and a red LED that will also give you a code. To reset your ECU, in an attempt to clear the codes, you'll pull the "back-up" fuse under the hood passenger side. The ECU fuse won't reset the code. Personally, I recently had a throttle position sensor (aftermarket) take a crap on me, and it would also idle rough and try to die. I actually replaced the throttle body assembly with an OEM sensor still attached rather than by another sensor that would fail in a year. Finding a throttle body at a junkyard should be cheap and all you'll need is a new gasket.
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2017 | 11:56 AM
  #7  
Mrprofits213's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Default Re: 90 Da Ls B20b Shuts off

Originally Posted by trm4life
Well for starters, I know that finding A PR4 ECU, is almost impossible these days. I think it's weird they did a swap and kept it automatic. Most companies who make tuned ECUs only make them for manual. That said, you should try to do diagnostics. Find the jumper under the passenger side dash. Use a piece of wire or paperclip to "jump" the wire. Turn the key and see if your check engine light flashes. Also, under the dash, driver side, is your automatic transmission module. This module has a circle window and a red LED that will also give you a code. To reset your ECU, in an attempt to clear the codes, you'll pull the "back-up" fuse under the hood passenger side. The ECU fuse won't reset the code. Personally, I recently had a throttle position sensor (aftermarket) take a crap on me, and it would also idle rough and try to die. I actually replaced the throttle body assembly with an OEM sensor still attached rather than by another sensor that would fail in a year. Finding a throttle body at a junkyard should be cheap and all you'll need is a new gasket.
hello. Today I jumped the cel wire and the ecl doesn't flash nor gives codes. I also checked the ECU and it flashes once when I switch to o-ll position and nothing else after that. Which means I have no codes?
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2017 | 01:24 PM
  #8  
Mrprofits213's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Default Re: 90 Da Ls B20b Shuts off

Also cleaned the throttle body and nothing. Clean the shift lock next to the automatic shifter to the left it was very greasy and nothing. Still shuts off.
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2017 | 01:43 PM
  #9  
trm4life's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 312
Likes: 0
From: Iowa
Default Re: 90 Da Ls B20b Shuts off

So, watched that video, and things look like a bit of a mess. Just to let you know, that box on the passenger side, is the warning that your key is in/door is open. You can unplug it and see if that helps. I think it also controls the electric seat belts. Other than that, you seem to have a weird electric issue. Perhaps a rubbed wire somewhere. Mine has an issue where the rear defrost clicks on and off when my wipers are on. Perhaps we have a similar issue. Going to check my Chilton manual and see if I can find something in the wiring diagram. If you turn your key to to ll the check engine light should turn on, relay and fuel pump should engage, then CEL should turn off. If CEL stays on (no jumper) your ECU is bad.
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2017 | 03:32 PM
  #10  
Mrprofits213's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Default Re: 90 Da Ls B20b Shuts off

Originally Posted by trm4life
So, watched that video, and things look like a bit of a mess. Just to let you know, that box on the passenger side, is the warning that your key is in/door is open. You can unplug it and see if that helps. I think it also controls the electric seat belts. Other than that, you seem to have a weird electric issue. Perhaps a rubbed wire somewhere. Mine has an issue where the rear defrost clicks on and off when my wipers are on. Perhaps we have a similar issue. Going to check my Chilton manual and see if I can find something in the wiring diagram. If you turn your key to to ll the check engine light should turn on, relay and fuel pump should engage, then CEL should turn off. If CEL stays on (no jumper) your ECU is bad.
yes the wiring is a mess. I disconnected the box you said and it did help with the noise. Also the cel does turn off as it needs to. By the way I have a spare cluster and I swap it out to make sure it has nothing to do with all the craziness going on with what I'm going thru and now seems like my problem is something to do with the transmission? The S3 flashes. I guess the previous owner took the bulb out from the cluster my car had.
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2017 | 04:05 PM
  #11  
trm4life's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 312
Likes: 0
From: Iowa
Default Re: 90 Da Ls B20b Shuts off

I believe the s3 light indicates a transmission code. Look under the driver side, there's a gold box that is your auto transmission module. It has a round window with a red LED that will give you a code!
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2017 | 02:37 PM
  #12  
Mrprofits213's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Default Re: 90 Da Ls B20b Shuts off

Originally Posted by trm4life
I believe the s3 light indicates a transmission code. Look under the driver side, there's a gold box that is your auto transmission module. It has a round window with a red LED that will give you a code!
hello. I did. And I got codes 2,7,8.
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2017 | 07:13 PM
  #13  
trm4life's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 312
Likes: 0
From: Iowa
Default Re: 90 Da Ls B20b Shuts off

So I did a little searching, and someone else had a situation where replacing the transmission control module fixed their problem. I'm going to check my manual to see what the codes are. If u need a module, I have one!
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2017 | 08:21 PM
  #14  
trm4life's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 312
Likes: 0
From: Iowa
Default Re: 90 Da Ls B20b Shuts off

Here's what my manual says about the trouble codes.

Reply
Old Apr 12, 2017 | 08:43 PM
  #15  
trm4life's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 312
Likes: 0
From: Iowa
Default Re: 90 Da Ls B20b Shuts off

Auto Trans trouble codes
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2017 | 08:48 PM
  #16  
Mrprofits213's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Default Re: 90 Da Ls B20b Shuts off

Originally Posted by trm4life
Well for starters, I know that finding A PR4 ECU, is almost impossible these days. I think it's weird they did a swap and kept it automatic. Most companies who make tuned ECUs only make them for manual. That said, you should try to do diagnostics. Find the jumper under the passenger side dash. Use a piece of wire or paperclip to "jump" the wire. Turn the key and see if your check engine light flashes. Also, under the dash, driver side, is your automatic transmission module. This module has a circle window and a red LED that will also give you a code. To reset your ECU, in an attempt to clear the codes, you'll pull the "back-up" fuse under the hood passenger side. The ECU fuse won't reset the code. Personally, I recently had a throttle position sensor (aftermarket) take a crap on me, and it would also idle rough and try to die. I actually replaced the throttle body assembly with an OEM sensor still attached rather than by another sensor that would fail in a year. Finding a throttle body at a junkyard should be cheap and all you'll need is a new gasket.
hello. I checked for codes and the ECU have no codes. I did the automatic transmission ecu and it gave me codes 2,7,8.
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2017 | 09:29 PM
  #17  
trm4life's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 312
Likes: 0
From: Iowa
Default Re: 90 Da Ls B20b Shuts off

Check reply and photos above. ^^^^^^^^^^
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2017 | 12:03 PM
  #18  
Mrprofits213's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Default Re: 90 Da Ls B20b Shuts off

Originally Posted by trm4life
Check reply and photos above. ^^^^^^^^^^
took the solenoids A and B and cleaned them up with carb cleaner and it cleared the codes and the s3 flashing. I have no cel nor transmission codes either.
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2017 | 12:05 PM
  #19  
Mrprofits213's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Default Re: 90 Da Ls B20b Shuts off

Could this be a ground issue? The only grounds I see on my car are the valve cover to radiator support, thermostat grounds, negative battery post to transmission.
Reply
Old Apr 24, 2017 | 01:28 PM
  #20  
Mrprofits213's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Default Re: 90 Da Ls B20b Shuts off

Today I changed the distributor cap and rotor and no start. Wants to start but doesn't. I know I have fuel I can see just a bit of it from the fuel rail.

Now it's a no start issue oh Lord. I updated my post with things I have done.

4/24 UPDATE: now I'm dealing with a no start issue.
things I have done:
Check all connections
Check all fuses
Clean the thermostat grounds
Move the valve ground to bat and frame "fixed all the clicking and buzzing
Replace distributor cap and rotor
Clean the plugs for now
Check the wires
Check for code NO CODES
Replace the main relay
Got a spare pr4 automatic ecu

Last edited by Mrprofits213; Apr 24, 2017 at 05:19 PM.
Reply
Old Apr 24, 2017 | 02:06 PM
  #21  
trm4life's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 312
Likes: 0
From: Iowa
Default Re: 90 Da Ls B20b Shuts off

Reset the ECU by pulling the "back-up" fuse for a few minutes. (Under the hood passenger side) After you reinstall turn the key, see if you hear the fuel pump. Then the check engine light should shut off. If you don't hear the pump, try to replace the main relay. If the check engine light stays on, the ECU is bad. Other than that. Try to trickle charge your battery, and check the "starter signal" fuse.
Reply
Old Apr 24, 2017 | 05:22 PM
  #22  
Mrprofits213's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Default Re: 90 Da Ls B20b Shuts off

Originally Posted by trm4life
Reset the ECU by pulling the "back-up" fuse for a few minutes. (Under the hood passenger side) After you reinstall turn the key, see if you hear the fuel pump. Then the check engine light should shut off. If you don't hear the pump, try to replace the main relay. If the check engine light stays on, the ECU is bad. Other than that. Try to trickle charge your battery, and check the "starter signal" fuse.
hello I reset the ECU I have no codes. I do hear the fuel pump prime. I try a different main relay and another pr4 ecu and nothing. Right now my main issue is the car not starting. It was before but now no. I updated the things I have done so far. I really want this Integra running it's my first DA and I'm excited.
Reply
Old May 1, 2017 | 02:46 PM
  #23  
Mrprofits213's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Default Re: 90 Da Ls B20b Shuts off

Does anyone knows if this is a obd0 integra distributor? The distributor that my car have is was different than this one.


Reply
Old May 1, 2017 | 03:09 PM
  #24  
trm4life's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 312
Likes: 0
From: Iowa
Default Re: 90 Da Ls B20b Shuts off

Round white plug, obd-0. Rectangle grey, obd1.
Reply
Old May 6, 2017 | 03:00 PM
  #25  
Mrprofits213's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Default Re: 90 Da Ls B20b Shuts off

I have good news! Swap the distributor and now my Integra runs 😱 I'm so happy.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
chickenhawk44
Tech / Misc
9
Oct 18, 2012 06:41 AM
rwmagee90
Acura Integra
5
Mar 9, 2010 08:48 AM
kcvi3tstyl3
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
5
Apr 15, 2009 05:10 PM
90jdmcrxdude
Honda CRX / EF Civic (1988 - 1991)
14
Jan 30, 2006 10:55 PM
si95
Tech / Misc
9
Sep 5, 2002 11:42 AM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:44 AM.