first start timing
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first start timing
ok im reading about a timing gun. thought you just get everything tdc? engine has never ran. do i need the timing gun? and how do i adjust rocker arms to the right adjustment b18a1 block and head. 1996 integra coupe
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Re: first start timing
To set electrical timing, yes you need a timing gun.
For valve adjustment Google is your friend, there are more then a few vids and DIYs on how to do that for your engine...
this is just one of them.
Valves lash out of adjustment by itself will not prevent engine start, [unless way off] you have something else wrong.
Do you have spark?
Only use an HEI spark tester to check spark, check spark on all 4 cylinders, should be bright blue.
Do you have fuel?
After start attempts remove spark plugs and inspect, are they "wet" with gas?
Have you confirmed fire order, are spark plug leads in the correct positions? 94
For valve adjustment Google is your friend, there are more then a few vids and DIYs on how to do that for your engine...
Valves lash out of adjustment by itself will not prevent engine start, [unless way off] you have something else wrong.
Do you have spark?
Only use an HEI spark tester to check spark, check spark on all 4 cylinders, should be bright blue.
Do you have fuel?
After start attempts remove spark plugs and inspect, are they "wet" with gas?
Have you confirmed fire order, are spark plug leads in the correct positions? 94
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Re: first start timing
To set electrical timing, yes you need a timing gun.
For valve adjustment Google is your friend, there are more then a few vids and DIYs on how to do that for your engine... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G_Nq2orpfo this is just one of them.
Valves lash out of adjustment by itself will not prevent engine start, [unless way off] you have something else wrong.
Do you have spark?
Only use an HEI spark tester to check spark, check spark on all 4 cylinders, should be bright blue.
Do you have fuel?
After start attempts remove spark plugs and inspect, are they "wet" with gas?
Have you confirmed fire order, are spark plug leads in the correct positions? 94
For valve adjustment Google is your friend, there are more then a few vids and DIYs on how to do that for your engine... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G_Nq2orpfo this is just one of them.
Valves lash out of adjustment by itself will not prevent engine start, [unless way off] you have something else wrong.
Do you have spark?
Only use an HEI spark tester to check spark, check spark on all 4 cylinders, should be bright blue.
Do you have fuel?
After start attempts remove spark plugs and inspect, are they "wet" with gas?
Have you confirmed fire order, are spark plug leads in the correct positions? 94
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From: Texas
Re: first start timing
To set electrical timing, yes you need a timing gun.
For valve adjustment Google is your friend, there are more then a few vids and DIYs on how to do that for your engine... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G_Nq2orpfo this is just one of them.
Valves lash out of adjustment by itself will not prevent engine start, [unless way off] you have something else wrong.
Do you have spark?
Only use an HEI spark tester to check spark, check spark on all 4 cylinders, should be bright blue.
Do you have fuel?
After start attempts remove spark plugs and inspect, are they "wet" with gas?
Have you confirmed fire order, are spark plug leads in the correct positions? 94
For valve adjustment Google is your friend, there are more then a few vids and DIYs on how to do that for your engine... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G_Nq2orpfo this is just one of them.
Valves lash out of adjustment by itself will not prevent engine start, [unless way off] you have something else wrong.
Do you have spark?
Only use an HEI spark tester to check spark, check spark on all 4 cylinders, should be bright blue.
Do you have fuel?
After start attempts remove spark plugs and inspect, are they "wet" with gas?
Have you confirmed fire order, are spark plug leads in the correct positions? 94
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Re: first start timing
Correct, so your order is, valve lash on cold engine, then start her up for the first time check for leaks. No leaks let warm up and then set ignition timing. Then hop in the car and do the break in procedure. Bring her home, drain the oil, change the oil filter and refill with your regular oil of choice.
Done.
Done.
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Re: first start timing
Correct, so your order is, valve lash on cold engine, then start her up for the first time check for leaks. No leaks let warm up and then set ignition timing. Then hop in the car and do the break in procedure. Bring her home, drain the oil, change the oil filter and refill with your regular oil of choice.
Done.
Done.
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Re: first start timing
As well, you don't seat rings on a cold engine. You have to get the engine up to operating temperature before doing a break in procedure. Setting ignition timing is a 5 minute process if that.
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Re: first start timing
how long should I run at idle before the warm up? And ok I guess I'll be setting the ignition timing im getting the low ball joints and front lca bushings changed and i asked if they could do it while I had it in the shop. supposed to call me back but they acted like they couldnt. should I buy the flashing light one or spend an extra 100$ and get the digital?
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Re: first start timing
You idle the engine to operating temperature.
You are making this WAY more difficult than it needs to be.
It's most effective to do the engine in one smooth process. Do not idle engine to operating temp, set ignition timing then shut it off only to idle the engine up to operating temperature AGAIN to do the break in process later.
You are making this WAY more difficult than it needs to be.
It's most effective to do the engine in one smooth process. Do not idle engine to operating temp, set ignition timing then shut it off only to idle the engine up to operating temperature AGAIN to do the break in process later.
Correct, so your order is, valve lash on cold engine, then start her up for the first time check for leaks. No leaks let warm up and then set ignition timing. Then hop in the car and do the break in procedure. Bring her home, drain the oil, change the oil filter and refill with your regular oil of choice.
Done.
Done.
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From: Texas
Re: first start timing
You idle the engine to operating temperature.
You are making this WAY more difficult than it needs to be.
It's most effective to do the engine in one smooth process. Do not idle engine to operating temp, set ignition timing then shut it off only to idle the engine up to operating temperature AGAIN to do the break in process later.
You are making this WAY more difficult than it needs to be.
It's most effective to do the engine in one smooth process. Do not idle engine to operating temp, set ignition timing then shut it off only to idle the engine up to operating temperature AGAIN to do the break in process later.
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