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93 Civic 1.5 stalls, won't start, no code on CEL (Solved)

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Old Aug 13, 2016 | 01:39 PM
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Default 93 Civic 1.5 stalls, won't start, no code on CEL (Solved)

Hi guys

I have a problem and I'm crazy
Civic LX 1.5 D15B7 1993 A/T

Engine starts fine, well done...
After around 5-20 min it dies and Check light stays on. After this stalling, turn key, crank but won't start. CEL stays ON and on and theres no sound of the fuel pump starting.

If you try to start around 3min later, start fine again and dies after 5-15 min. While engine is running nothing anormal occurred. Runs very well.

I made jump wire and CEL show no blinks.

Replaced: fuel pump, main relay, fuel filter, tdc/crk/cyl sensor

Inspected: pressure regulator ok, grounds ok, ignition switch ok

Noticed the tailpipe release a anormal smell (like rust) and many water

Thats all
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Old Aug 14, 2016 | 06:20 AM
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Sounds like the ECU is bad.
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Old Aug 14, 2016 | 12:07 PM
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Hi.

A guy who repairs ECU told me my ECU have a overheating capacitor. He must complete the repair next tuesday.

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Old Aug 20, 2016 | 04:27 PM
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Hi.

A guy who repairs ECU told me my ECU have a overheating capacitor. He must complete the repair next tuesday.

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Hey guys

The ECU came from repair and seems like Civic no stalling anymore. But still won't start sometimes. CEL stays on after 2 seconds and no blinks any code. :-(
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Old Aug 20, 2016 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by RonJ
Sounds like the ECU is bad.
I noticed a curious detail: the longer the time between the engine starts, the greater the possibility of CEL to stay on. And when you do not hear the sound of the fuel pump, it means that CEL will not go out.
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Old Aug 20, 2016 | 05:04 PM
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The CEL staying on and pump not priming means either main relay is bad or the ECU. Even though it is new, it wouldn't hurt to resolder your main relay. Or resolder the old one and put it back in the car. If the problem continues, consult with your ECU guy again or buy another one.
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Old Aug 20, 2016 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by mk378
The CEL staying on and pump not priming means either main relay is bad or the ECU. Even though it is new, it wouldn't hurt to resolder your main relay. Or resolder the old one and put it back in the car. If the problem continues, consult with your ECU guy again or buy another one.
I changed the new relay/old relay but the problem continues and intermittent. The old relay is good.
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Old Aug 21, 2016 | 01:19 PM
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Default re: 93 Civic 1.5 stalls, won't start, no code on CEL (Solved)

If the fuel pump were bad the light and relay would cycle normally (though no fuel would flow). So it's not that.
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Old Aug 21, 2016 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dankaes
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Fuel pump is good. But I installed a new one. The problem continues the same.

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Old Aug 21, 2016 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by dankaes
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Replaced tdc/crank/cyl sensors

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Old Aug 21, 2016 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by dankaes
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Ign Coil: good. I replace for other known-good and the problem continues.

Ign sensor: not tested

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Old Aug 21, 2016 | 07:01 PM
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I think there is still a problem in the ECU. Not as bad as before, but still there. You've spent enough on other unnecessary parts to buy a used ECU and replace the whole unit. ECU's seldom go bad, but when they do it is often exactly what you describe with the intermittent slow or no "boot up".
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I think there is still a problem in the ECU. Not as bad as before, but still there. You've spent enough on other unnecessary parts to buy a used ECU and replace the whole unit. ECU's seldom go bad, but when they do it is often <em>exactly</em> what you describe with the intermittent slow or no "boot up".
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Default re: 93 Civic 1.5 stalls, won't start, no code on CEL (Solved)

Originally Posted by RonJ
Sounds like the ECU is bad.
^^ I believe it's this.

Changing a bad capacitor on a bad ECU isn't necessarily going to make it a good ECU.

I suspect the ECU is still bad.
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Old Sep 5, 2016 | 09:46 AM
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Default re: 93 Civic 1.5 stalls, won't start, no code on CEL (Solved)

Hi guys, I think I can reply you since I've been testin a known-good ECU. Now, Civic starts ok all attempts and won't stall anymore.

I apreciate your help. Thanks a lot
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