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97 Civic EX - Emissions test high HC and NOx

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Old Jun 5, 2016 | 01:18 AM
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Default 97 Civic EX - Emissions test high HC and NOx

Currently helping a scientist (not really) who for some reason allowed his 97 Civic to be tested on the rollers instead of the obd-2 port. Car is a stock EX, has no CEL, and obviously would have passed the port test. It failed the roller (sniffer) test in a pretty impressive fashion. HC and CO are way up, was slightly over on NOx. Aside from adjusting ignition timing, verifying ignition components condition, and changing the oil (its bad), what else should I look for to get those numbers back down?
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Old Jun 5, 2016 | 06:28 AM
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Post the emissions sheet.

Does the CEL work?

There are probably multiple issues, but at the very least the cat is almost surely dead.
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Old Jun 5, 2016 | 09:18 AM
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Default Re: 97 Civic EX - Emissions test high HC and NOx

if i can get my hands on it, i will. was texted to me in the following format:

hc 97lim- 272
Co 54lim- 353
Nox749lim- 924
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Old Jun 5, 2016 | 09:20 AM
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Were O2 levels measured?

CEL definitely works?
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Old Jun 5, 2016 | 09:53 AM
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tune up on ignition?
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Old Jun 5, 2016 | 11:22 AM
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Default Re: 97 Civic EX - Emissions test high HC and NOx

yes, cel works. was not given o2 information
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Old Jun 5, 2016 | 11:27 AM
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Default Re: 97 Civic EX - Emissions test high HC and NOx

If the car has an EGR system, cleaning the EGR valve and passages is important for NOx. Failing all three often means that the catalytic converter is worn out, that may also eventually throw a P0420.
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Old Jun 5, 2016 | 12:11 PM
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He just said no cel...
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Old Jun 5, 2016 | 05:39 PM
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no egr on the ex.
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Old Jun 6, 2016 | 08:38 AM
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Some maintenance tune up work will probably need to be done. fuel injection cleaner should do the trick or pull them out and send them off to be clean and tested. Ignition system can probably need some replacing as well.
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Old Jun 6, 2016 | 12:43 PM
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Default Re: 97 Civic EX - Emissions test high HC and NOx

im going to replace the plugs, swap the working autozone reman dizzy for a known good oe, and retard the ignition timing. retest after those things, will post results. im sure people will question the dizzy swap, but reman units are pure trash. instead of bench testing every component in the POS, i will use one of mine to be sure i have a 100% working unit.
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Old Jun 7, 2016 | 03:23 AM
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No doubt, my cousin autozone crap died on him not too long ago. He ended up having to replace it again...again....again....until finally 1 kept running
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Default Re: 97 Civic EX - Emissions test high HC and NOx

changed oil, swapped distributors and wires for a set of ngk's, retarded ignition timing significantly. nox nearly cut in half, hc/co both reduced but still way above limit.
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Old Jun 8, 2016 | 08:25 AM
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cat...bad cat..OR you can try a can of CRC guarantee to pass
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usually high nox is cat, i passed that well under the limit.
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