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Old Mar 28, 2016 | 05:55 AM
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its been a while since i have tackled a timing belt project. i'm having a hell of a time getting the belt on the car. i have the cam gears set and the crank set at the timing marks, i start at the crank with the belt, then go to the tensioner, then h20 pump, intake cam, and then when i get to the intake cam i cannot get the belt to go over the cam gear. its like its a hair too small. i tried pushing the tensioner as far as i can in my favor, but still no luck. any ideas?



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Old Mar 28, 2016 | 06:11 AM
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have you tried sliding the belt over both cam gears evenly at the same time?
also i found that you can get a little more free movement in the belt if you've only got it partially pushed over each component, so start by trying to slide half the width of the belt onto the crank, then around the tensioner, then water pump, then both cam gears at the same time. once it can be pushed up onto the cam gears then you can slide it on little by little all the way round until it's all the way on
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Old Mar 28, 2016 | 06:44 AM
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i have not tried that yet. i'll have to give that a shot this week. makes sense why it would work.
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Old Mar 28, 2016 | 04:28 PM
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sure you got the right belt?
ls/rs has 125 teeth, gs-r has 126.
i'm sure it has happened before...
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Old Mar 28, 2016 | 10:01 PM
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The factory service manual places the order of belt installation as follows:

1) Around crank gear
2) Over tensioner pulley - Leave bolt 1/2 turn loose from proper torque spec
3) Around water pump
4) Around Exhaust camshaft gear
5) Finally, around Intake camshaft gear.

It is not specified in the FSM, but the suggestion above about placing the belt halfway deep on the timing components has merit and may make the installation easier.

If this method doesn't work for you... and we are assuming that you do in fact have a 126 tooth timing belt, let us know here and I can offer a couple "tricks" to help if necessary.
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Old Mar 29, 2016 | 04:20 AM
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i will have to double check the part number. i've run this kit before with zero issues. its a gates kit.
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Old Mar 29, 2016 | 02:12 PM
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You need a new timing belt. They are not all made equal. I bought a gates belt off amazon and couldnt get it to fit, then i went to oreillys and bought a new gates belt and it fit nicely.
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Old Mar 29, 2016 | 03:07 PM
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Does that cam lock work on Non Vtec motors,
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Old Mar 30, 2016 | 04:20 AM
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Streetrays B16A B18C Cam Gear Lock Timing Belt Installation Tool Civic Integra | eBay

this is where i got mine, it has LS integras listed as well in the compatibility section.
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Old Mar 31, 2016 | 06:43 AM
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i had about 30-45 minutes i could mess with this again last night. i double checked the part number to make sure it was correct, i counted the "teeth" on the belt and it is the correct number. i will have to try aligning everything with just the edge again. i got it close last night, but no cigar with the amount of time i had to mess with it. i should be able to dedicate at least 90 minutes to the car after work tonight and try to get this belt on
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Old Mar 31, 2016 | 09:26 AM
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I usually have an open end wrench on the intake cam gear bolt to turn the cam 1/4 turn to the right as I slip the last part of the timing belt on. As the gear turns, it pulls the slack tight and gives the belt enough space to slip right on.
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Old Mar 31, 2016 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by EnjoyTheRideDC2
I usually have an open end wrench on the intake cam gear bolt to turn the cam 1/4 turn to the right as I slip the last part of the timing belt on. As the gear turns, it pulls the slack tight and gives the belt enough space to slip right on.
I think i finally got it! I will confirm tomorrow when i get the pulley on to rotate the crankshaft per the manual to make sure everything stays in time with each other.
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Old Mar 31, 2016 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dylspil
have you tried sliding the belt over both cam gears evenly at the same time?
also i found that you can get a little more free movement in the belt if you've only got it partially pushed over each component, so start by trying to slide half the width of the belt onto the crank, then around the tensioner, then water pump, then both cam gears at the same time. once it can be pushed up onto the cam gears then you can slide it on little by little all the way round until it's all the way on
exactly what was said above, slide belt onto both cam gears at same time little by little wiggle until its on and then you can proceed to tighten
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Old Apr 1, 2016 | 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by EnjoyTheRideDC2
I usually have an open end wrench on the intake cam gear bolt to turn the cam 1/4 turn to the right as I slip the last part of the timing belt on. As the gear turns, it pulls the slack tight and gives the belt enough space to slip right on.
This is how i do it sometimes when im having trouble, but my last timing belt went very smooth, i also used a cam lock.
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